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Salvation By Our Works
David, I rebuke YOU. why don't you understand that?

The Gospel of Salvation is clearly stated in scripture. How we become a NEW CREATURE IN CHRIST is clearly stated in scripture. Romans 6.....old things pass away all things become NEW. Put on the NEW MAN created in righteousness and holiness....YOU DAVID REJECT scripture and follow the teachings of man.

Why are you so daft in this area? Do you think somehow you are going to TRICK ME? What a putz!

Salvation By Our Works
LUKE 16:20-26 a must read. Jesus own words would NEVER DECEIVE or make up a lie for any reason. Doing so would show He was a sinner. SDA and JW both accuse GOD of lying, insulting the Holy Spirit, could be the unforgivable sin.


A beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried,

23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue, for I am tormented in this flame.

It was not their physical bodies here but their souls.

Dormition Of Mary
Ruben, you keep asking the same question I have already answered. Only ONLY ONLY the RCC and affiliates call Mary The Mother of God, and all the baggage that come with that TITLE you have given her. You, by doing so have exalted her above what God has, making IKONS, trinkets, dashboard divas , and monuments, statues , prayers, etc etc etc .and the DORMITION of Mary..a Fiest day NOT IN SCRIPTURE...showing it is your tradition based on false beliefs about Mary.

If you can find ANY verse that uses specifically the TITLE of Mary...THE MOTHER OF GOD, please show your scripture, or accept many don't believe what is not in scripture. I don't believe your made up doctrine's a CULT.

Two Prophets Of Revelation
Makes me wonder as we see the Gospel so watered down these days, along with the touchy feely false doctrine of universal is, which by the way is NOT CHRISTIANITY, if that is why there is so much lawlessness in our world today.

There are several verses as to who/ what will not inherit the Kingdom of God. No verse says all will eventually one day come to their senses and inherit the Kingdom of God.

Liars also have their part in the Lake of fire.

Salvation By Our Works
Psalms 16: 10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

We know by David8316 that he believes Michael is Jesus, also twisting Hebrews 1....YET we know Angels don't have souls. Nor do animals or plants. Angels are created spirit beings. They have no blood either. And no hope of redemption since God sent His only begotten Son to SAVE "SOULS" aka MAN, FROM DEATH. And Hebrews as well as Timothy say the only mediator between God and man IS THE MAN CHRIST JESUS, not the archangel Michael....who is STILL named MICHAEL.,totally debunking David's bazaar twist of Hebrews 1 where he thinks God IS asking one of His angels to sit at His right hand.

Salvation By Our Works
David, are you having fun throwing stupid comments here? Who said I follow Jimmy Swaggart? Why do you lower yourself to making stuff up. You lose all credibility here when you do so.

And you seem to forget I've posted here for nearly 16 years and those who know me KNOW I don't follow Jimmy Swaggart. But nice try David. Nice trying to AGAIN make a fool of yourself. You don't need to keep won the fool of the month club . Try again for the September fool of the month club. Is this how your WORKS of salvation work David, LYING and making stuff up? That's WHY I can't take anything you say or teach seriously.

Keeping Of Sunday
Also Jerry, no one commands any keeping of Sunday either. It's just what many do who celebrate the day Jesus rose from the dead, rather than worship a Jesus still in the grave. Without His resurection there is no forgivness of sin to begin with. The proof God accepted Jesus sacrifice on the Cross is the proof of Jesus Resurrection. But hay, if you don't believe Jesus paid it all, and you feel you need to pay for your own sin by keeping the law...then why aren't you all stoning one another for that sin?

Salvation By Our Works
John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

John 3:13 show Enoch, Elijah did not go to heaven, at least not before Jesus died and rose again. NO ONE DID.

Accusing me of not believing Jesus died and rose again.....ARE YOU ON CRACK? Or did you stab yourself with a knife meant for another? How can one believe they died and rose up with Christ...ROMANS 6 If they don't believe Jesus died and rose again? HOW can one identify with Jesus in death and resurrection life, OR totally believe in Galatians 2:20-21 if they don't believe Jesus died and rose again? I know you keep saying that, but my posts for the last 16 years PROVE YOU A LIAR.

Two Prophets Of Revelation
Oh yea, Armstrongism...I've totally forgotten about that CULT.

Dormition Of Mary
Ruben, I do not refuse to call Jesus God in His humanity . Jesus is fully God and fully man. So just because I don't say Mary is the Mother of God, please don't twist that around to accuse those who don't of not believing Jesus is Fully God amid fully man.

You may be able to pull that off on some ignorant...but not here with me Ruben.

Keeping Of Sunday
We are now FREE to be married to another and free to worship God 7 days a week , bringing forth FRUIT. Romans 7. Since heaven is now our home, Colossians 2-3, and in heaven there are no days or nights or even a's awesome. Praise God for those who have ENTERED INTO HIS REST from the foundation of the world. The 7th day of Creation pointed to the finished works of Christ on the cross. This is what Hebrews 3-4 is telling us.....and a promise left us of ENTERING IN. We don't have to keep it ...we now are called to ENTER IT. And you ask HOW do we enter? Hebrews 10....THROUGH THE VEIL, THAT IS TO SAY HIS FLESH... A NEW AND LIVING WAY AKA I AM CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST. Romans 6 and Galatians 2:20-21.

Dormition Of Mary
Ruben, I'm not sure what your point is. Paul, Peter, John, James, Jude all are speaking to Christians encouraging them as well as warning them about false teachers who have crept in unaware. The 7 letters in Rev clearly show they are not saved or Christians.

I could say your group ( mystery Babylon, the harlot ) is a clear warning about your people. Also Paul warns us at the beginning of Philippians 3.... The Concission AKA Pharisees ...described in Romans 10 , also in Galatians, fits your description. ..."thank you Paul for the warning".

Salvation By Our Works
David the clear distinction between your definition of a CULT , and a Christian is a Christian has a personal relationship with the Lord. Cults don't ....yet you somehow want to legitimize the CULT. That's the difference between your beliefs and mine.

Dormition Of Mary
Yes Ruben, false teachers were coming in. All letters say stand fast etc. that doesn't mean they weren't. Just like in football..."HOLD THAT LINE...HOLD THAT LINE" Interestingly you failed to read all the verses Paul praises them for their faith, etc. I don't think any group was praised more than the Thesselonians who endured persecution and suffering.

The Mother of My Lord is not the same as MOTHER OF GOD. Nice try, but again total embellishment carrying the baggage of more embellishments.

Salvation By Our Works
Sorry David, the only rediculous statement was your original one. Like I said, many CULTS say they are followers of Jesus. Doesn't make them Christian.

Salvation By Our Works
OH wow, I bet he also watched FOX NEWS, .... Maybe he also watched the PBS News hour too.

However Documentaries can be shown by any one anywhere. The Documentary on the Mayo Clinic shown on Netflix and other feeds was awesome. Also the Doc on the Roosevelt family was awesome too, carried by PBS, HBO, NETFLIX, AMAZON ....and so many more.

Many people don't believe in God simply because of the PTL CLUB and CBN on television.

Salvation By Our Works
David, after watching THE FAMILY on Netflix, I'm a little cautious of anyone who says they follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. So do they, and they are a cult. They even made their own bible called JESUS . interestingly enough all genetic Christian cults say they follow the teachings of Jesus. So did Thomas Jefferson, who also created the Jefferson Bible picking and choosing what verses in the 4 gospels to use.

It also appears David you follow the teachings of Jesus before He died and Rose again, which many of those teachings are still OT, and some are for the 1000 year reign like Matthew.

Salvation By Our Works
James 5: 20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

So bazaar David 8313 or whatever accuses James of Hellenic or pagan whatever teachings.

Too bad too that David8313 will never experience having his soul saved from death, as long as he holds to the false teachings of the JW's.

Salvation By Our Works
Soul sleep is the teaching that when a person dies that his soul "sleeps" until the time of the future resurrection. In this condition, the person is not aware or conscious. The Jehovah's Witnesses and the Seventh-day Adventists hold to this doctrine as do most conditionalists (those who say that the wicked are judged and don't exist anymore). But the Jehovah's Witnesses teach annihilation. This means that after death a person ceases to exist. At the future resurrection, they maintain that the soul is made again. Basically, it is a re-creation of the individual. The Seventh-day Adventists teach at the soul is simply inert and resides in the memory of God.

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