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Works Of The Law
David, we also see in 1John that those who hate are in darkness. Because God is Love, and in Him is no Darkness, and if we are IN HIM we are in His Light. We don't make our own light. We can't light our own candle. GOD IS LIGHT, those IN CHRIST ARE LIGHT.

Light exposes darkness.

When people make up lies about others THAT IS HATE. To pretend you're trying to do this or's still HATE. NO LIE IS OF THE TRUTH. And telling someone, WELL, you didn't say that, BUT, ....the but is because you don't understand what I'm saying and gives you no right to add YOUR LIES to what I believe, because you don't either like what I believe or don't understand what I believe. So David. Go confess your sin, and stay in Gods LIGHT.

Works Of The Law
David, let me simplify....1 Cor 13:11-15 verse 11 show there is first the FOUNDATION of Christ, meaning the foundation that Jesus died for our sin, and has forgiven those who's faith is in Jesus death and resurrection. The Jews we see Paul refer to in Romans 10 overlooked the FOUNDATION, the CHIEF YOU have tripped over that truth, and continue to go about spouting their own righteousness.

SO now that we have our SIN FORGIVEN and IN CHRIST are a NEW CREATURE created in righteousness and holiness, we now do those WORKS God has before ordained that we walk in. Those WORKS done IN CHRIST will be REWARDED....and WORKs done apart from the power of the Holy Spirit will be burned up....kaput....yet we are still SAVED.

Can Satan Be Forgiven
Because John the Calvinist here believes we are Israel, and not a NEW CREATION he will never understand the mystery of being IN CHRIST, AND CHRIST IN YOU, MAKING ONE NEW MAN. Until that changes, you can argue with John the Calvinist till the cows come home and get nowhere. They will continue to cherry pick AROUND the truth. It's a hopeless effort unless they first have a spirit want to learn deeper truths, rather than believing they already know it all. Will John listen and learn from those scriptures in Ephesians? Let's see.

Can Satan Be Forgiven
Ephesians 1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will,.....

Ephesians 3:3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery, (as I wrote afore in few words,

Ephesians 3:4 may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

Ephesians 3:9 And to make ALL MEN SEE what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

Ephesians 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

Ephesians 6:19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,

Works Of The Law
Since you disagree, that an act of disobedience against God, is called sin. What do you call it, in relationship to your definition of faith, which is also without works?
---David on 9/19/19

David, please show where I said an act of disobedience against God is not sin. Why like so many here do you also lie and twist to try to continue a conversation by making things up. I have issues debating with dishonest people like yourself.

I already gave you 1 Cor 13:11-15 concerning our WORKS as one who is saved. The works of the lost no matter how wonderful still fall short of the glory of God.

Build on the foundation of Christ Crucified first David. When that happens, you will find it harder and harder to lie.

Can Satan Be Forgiven
Jesus died for our sin so we could be reconciled to God. But it's OUR responsibility to want reconciliation. It's available to all, but not all will choose be reconciled to God.

Matthew 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way, first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

1 Corinthians 7:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife. IF SHE DEPARTS SHE IS NOT RECONCILED TO HER HUSBAND NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES.

2 Corinthians 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

Predestined For Hell
John you are taking Ephesians 2:1-2 out of verse 5. Now read chapters 1 through Chapter 6. now read 1 Corinthians 15:36....your not quickened unless you first die. Jesus died first before being QUICKENED. ***** 1Peter 3:18-22***** Romans 8:11-13 Hebrews 13:20-21 read together.

So when we DIE WITH CHRIST AKA BEING CRUCIFIED TOGETHER WITH CHRIST...AKA DEAD DEAD...ONLY then are we quickened TOGETHER WITH CHRIST. There is not some magic fairy with its magic wand flying around quickening anyone out of no where saying I PICK YOU AND YOU AND YOU apart from being IN CHRIST first dying with Him. That's the nonsense you all teach and believe....but it's not according to scripture. Those IN CHRIST KNOW BETTER.

Works Of The Law
Ok let's see how silly David's theory is by exchanging the word SIN for Works of the law.

Romans 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by SIN. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone,

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by SIN but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by SIN for by the SIN shall no flesh be justified.

Galatians 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by SIN or by the hearing of faith?

Galatians 3:5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by SIN or by the hearing of faith?

Predestined For Hell
John seems to think HIS DEFINITION OF A "dead person" cannot walk and talk or reason together with God, has no conscience, like a zombie apocalypse .....I think he's watching too many silly movies. Yea sure if dead means zombie ....but DEAD in scripture has many different nuances meanings. He wants to apply the DEAD as in last breath open casket funeral dead. He claims all are born walking zombies.

Problem with his doctrine, that Calvin didn't get either....if all are so DEAD DEAD, there would be no reason for a second death.

John can't answer this, because John has not experienced a second death here and now resulting in a resurrected life IN CHRIST as we speak. His own question gives away his ignorance.

Dormition Of Mary
Cluny, if your Mary is not the Mary of scripture, then her Jesus is not the Jesus of scripture. Just because you gave them the same names, doesn't mean they are the same.

Much of your teaching is based on Greek Mythology...the RCC and Orthodox just changed the names of their gods to your saints...Diana is now Mary and so much more in comparison.

Mariology came into a belief system when the Romans were trying to convert the Greeks ....replacing DIANA with Mary to appease and corral. Exalting Mary at that time was very important to the RCC Orthodox.

Dormition Of Mary
Cluny, if your Mary is not the Mary of scripture, then her Jesus is not the Jesus of scripture. Just because you gave them the same names, doesn't mean they are the same.

Much of your teaching is based on Greek Mythology...the RCC and Orthodox just changed the names of their gods to your saints...Diana is now Mary and so much more in comparison.

Mariology came into a belief system when the Romans were trying to convert the Greeks ....replacing DIANA with Mary to appease and corral. Exalting Mary at that time making her into a goddess figure was very important to the RCC andOrthodox.

Can Satan Be Forgiven
Ephesians 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace.

I'll have to study up on Universalists to see if they deny redemption through the blood of Jesus Christ.
No Jew was saved by animal blood. And everything in the OT under law was a PATTERN of all things pointing to Jesus Christ and HIM being the LAMB OF GOD who takes away the SIN OF THE WORLD , not just sin of the Jews under the law. For UNDER THE LAW NO ONE IS JUSTIFIED.

JS1234, it's frightening how much you don't know or don't understand.

Can Satan Be Forgiven
I think we can agree that Revelation...that which was written AFTER all the other epistles is the SUM AND SUBSTANCE of all from Genesis to Revelation.....states that not everyone will enter the Kingdom of God. And no scripture in Revelation makes any such statement those WITHOUT AKA OUTSIDE will ever ever be reconciled and enter in. It ain't gonna happen.

So, be responsible in telling others the truth that if you have never repented, having your sin WASHED AWAY the blood of the Lamb, your name simply is not gonna be in the Lambs book of life from the foundation of the world. And no demons or Satan have their names in the LAMBS BOOK OF LIFE.

Absent From Our Body
///Everlasting father: Jesus is the "last Adam"- 1Cor.15:45.////

Here is where every Christian should have an issue. NOtice above where David8318 put in lower case father? Red flag.

First, Jesus is not our Father, ...we come TO THE FATHER THROUGH HIS SON JESUS CHRIST. Ok so they believe Jesus the man died disintegrated, and Michael the AA spirit was quickened..their version of 1Peter 3:18. But scripture tells us the HOLY SPIRIT quickened ...also backed up in Romans 8:11-13.

Now they say Michael is the last Adam who quickens us us resurrection life out of death....yet Romans 8:11-13 say no such thing. Michael can't be the last Adam either, because he was never the first Adam to begin with.

Absent From Our Body
Romans 8:11-13

11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, ( PLEASE NOTE THAT THE SPIRIT OF MICHAEL THE AA DOES NOT DWELL IN BELIEVERS) he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

Absent From Our Body
Heb 1: 1 God, ......spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son,....3 Who being the brightness of his glory, the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high: 4 Being made so much better than the angels, ( BETTER THAN MICHAEL) .as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 6.....7 And of the angels ( that includes Michael) he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Absent From Our Body
David your thoughts here are not on any fact but fancy. I asked David his denomination he refuses to answer. Why, is he afraid of being put under a microscope, or is he afraid to admit openly he too is JW?

Like I said David MY FAITH IS IN THE WORD OF GOD, it is not in a denomination, statement of faith, church building or doctrines of men. I've visited many different denominations, and now I attend the CMA...aka Christian Missionary Alliance. Are there areas we may not agree? YES. So don't feel you need to look up someone in the CMA and start falsely accusing like you did CS. And NO, a person's political affiliation has nothing to do with ones faith. How moronic is that comment?

Absent From Our Body

Jehovahs Witnesses believe that Jesus was resurrected spiritually from the dead, but not physically.

OUR BIBLE SHOWS the resurrected Jesus asserted that he was not merely a spirit but had a flesh-and-bone body Luke 24:39, John 2:19-21, He ate food on several occasions, proving that he had a genuine physical body after the resurrection Luke 24:30, 42-43, John 21:12-13

This was confirmed by his followers who physically touched him Matt. 28:9, John 20:17

And He was seen ascending to heaven 40 days after His bodily resurrection , and OUR BIBLE says He will descend to Earth the way He ascended. Acts 1:1-12.

His second coming EVERY EYE WILL SEE.

Absent From Our Body
I don't normally insult them either, however being called the anti-christ has changed here how David8316 is a STUPID raving lunatic who has no clue what anti-christ actually means and stands for. it does not stand for anyone who believes in the Trinity or that our soul is not extinguished at death. and no scripture ever supports such an accusation. When people abuse the Word of God as a weapon to attack another..that clearly is wirchcraft.

If David 8316 continues to use witchcraft tactics here towards another HE NEEDS TO BE CALLED OUT.

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