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Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
David, I've always stated, I do not believe in a CHEAP GRACE. But I think what you seem to disagree with me here is that I go even further....A TOTAL YIELDING of our lives and living in that truth of Romans 6-8, Romans 12:1-2...A far deeper life in Grace than merely confessing our sins daily. To realize our life is IN CHRIST, and Christ is IN US..John 17, Colossians 1:24-27, resulting in Galatians 2:20-21 Colossians 3:1-4....Romans 6-8. THIS seems to be the point of disagreement between our beliefs you fight me on. Either you got off the train early, or you think you can do it all on your own. I can't do it on my own, so I stayed on that train, and it took me to places beyond ones imagination ...to here...**** Ephesians 3:14-21***


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
David, I believe what God said here in 1 John. I also believe Jesus does not have to die and be sacrificed over and over. Therefore I don't believe in a limited atonement.

1John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
So David, we see by the chapter of Hebrews 10, the Law pointed to Jesus Christ. In the OT the blood of bulls and goats only COVERED sin, but only for a year. This is why sacrifices had to be made over and over. This goes all the way back to Abel's blood sacrifice being accepted, and Cain's wheat...or bloodless sacrifice rejected. We see Job sacrificed for the sins of his sons...

The Law only created a more perfect picture pointing to Christ re Mercy seat, ,,,all made after a pattern of things in heaven...PICTIONARY ....

Then Jesus the promised Messiah came ....which all those OT things pointed to...the FINISHED WORKS OF CHRIST ON THE CROSS. and sin not covered year after year but ONCE AND FOR ALL.


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

The lambs book of life FROM the foundation of the world
Revelation13:8, would most likely start out something like this:
Adam
Eve
Abel
Seth
Enoch
Noah

Just to name a few. Also see Hebrews 11.

The same John that wrote St. John wrote Revelation, understanding the Gospel was first preached in Genesis 3:15 and actually implemented the moment God covered Adam and Eve with animal skins.


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
David , Paul tells us exactly who Gods love has been shed abroad in our hearts....those who have been JUSTIFIED BY FAITH.


Romans5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience,

4 And patience, experience, and experience, hope:

5 And hope maketh not ashamed, because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
David, John lays the foundation of the Gospel of Grace. John 15, carried through to 1,2, 3rd John, ABIDE IN ME AND I IN YOU AS YE CAN DO NOTHING UNLESS YOU ABIDE IN ME.

The MYSTERY defined in Colossians 1:24-27 along with Jesus prayer before He died in John 17 is CHRIST IN YOU. So I believe ALL OF JOHN is pointing to the time of AFTER Jesus death and resurrection, as NO ONE can be IN CHRIST or Christ in them until after His resurrection.

We also see in John 3 one must be BORN OF THE SPIRIT ...which again happens after Jesus rose from the dead.

So Jesus is revealing the Gospel of Grace in John , John reiterating in 1st John addressed to those who have passed from death to life....Paul also explains in Romans 6-8.


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
Samuel, Thank you for posting 1Cor 15:1-4. The Gospel is about the FORGIVNESS of sin, the breaking of its power over the sinner, and our life NOW that we are saved from the law of sin and death. All this is IN HIS SON, who died for our sin, was raised again. "for our justification "AKA SALVATION, and now IN CHRIST are sanctified once and for all..Hebrews 10.

Now we are COMPLETE IN HIM.....COLOSSIANS 2:10

Hebrews 10, so rich in understanding the Gospel, first announced in Genesis 3:15, and more fully revealed through out each dispensation, the Law pointing to Christ, our schoolmaster bringing us to Christ.

The worst of sinners can find FORGIVNESS who put their faith in Jesus to forgive and wash away your sin.


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
David, are you saying Jesus own words in John 3:16 is not the Gospel? My Bible says..FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD. And even while we were sinners Christ died for us.

We love Him because HE FIRST LOVED US.

So I'm confused as to exactly what your gospel is....that a person's human love towards God can save them? Is this love founded on anything specific, or just love for love.

God loves those who love HIS SON , and the Gospel is founded on JESUS CHRIST. FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON....THAT WHO SO EVER BELIEVES IN HIM...JESUS, WILL NOT PERISH BUT HAVE ETERNAL LIFE AKA SALVATION.

JESUS OWN WORDS. JESUS GOSPEL.


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
David, are you set free from sin? Romans 8:1 say For THE LAW OF THE SPIRIT OF LIFE has set me free from the LAW of sin and death. And this same LAW OF THE SPIRIT OF LIFE has told us we are no longer servants of sin, but SONS of God and joint heirs with Christ HIS SON. John 1:1-15 also state that as many as receive Him, TO THEM gave he the power to become the SONS OF GOD. THE WORD MADE FLESH IS GOD. No one can come to the Father except THROUGH HIS SON. We come THROUGH the cross. THROUGH the veil, that is to say His Flesh..please note...A NEW AND LIVING WAY Hebrews 10...but especially note verses 18-23. David have YOU entered the NEW AND LIVING WAY? Aka... I am crucified WITH Christ...Gal 2:20-21.


Satan On Over Drive
  
Anyone can mix and match scripture to say what they want it to say. I bet I can find scripture making it LOOK LIKE only those who can stand on their head will find mercy. HOWEVER Hebrews 4 state WE CAN COME TO THE THRONE OF GRACE TO FIND MERCY. We can also come boldly AKA WITH CONFIDENCE.

Remember Romans 9-11 are Gods dealing with the NATION OF ISRAEL, Not to be mixed and matched with the Gospel of Salvation that has been made known TO ALL....this included ALL GENTILES. TITUS 2:11.

Please choose to believe Gods word alone...it's called FAITH. There are evil men in this world who would try to rob you of your faith. Don't let them bother you. They're the ones who actually don't have faith at all, and have no clue what it is.


Importance Of Free Will
  
Thank you Linda. The problem here isn't "free will" but the Gospel itself is being challenged, using the "no free will " as some sort of smoke screen Satan uses to disrupt the Gospels GOOD NEWS, as Satan is the one blinding the eyes. He has all sorts of tricks up his sleeve to disrupt the preaching of the GLORIOUS GOSPEL, doing all he can to throw shade ..so the LIGHT OF THE GLORIOUS GOSPEL is being obscured by some nonsense of no free will. It's really sad to think of how many Satan has in the bondage of this false idea ,arguing a point that is never stated from Genesis to Revelation. Their argument is nill, because we too believe ONLY GOD SAVES, as there is no way our own blood can forgive our own sin. Hebrews 10.


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
David said:

It is not you, nor I, who decides who will, and who will not be saved. This decision is made by God the Father, and he chooses, those whom he will save. Yes...Jesus loved us, and he died for us, but God the Father loves those who love him.

Jesus tells us who God loves in (John 8:34 & 35), the problem is...very few people believe him.
---David on 9/18/20

This is where you said this David.


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
John 8:34-35 say nothing about God deciding who to save. Jesus is pointing to the message of the cross and How one is set free from sin. One must read Romans 5:1 first to understand one is first justified by faith. And Romans 4 ...showing Abraham as our example of what justification is. The foundation must always be laid before building upon it or it collapses.
Then we see following this order 1) JUSTIFICATION 2) IDENTIFICATION ..Romans 6 ...
Romans 6:7
For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Romans 6:18
Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

ROMANS 8,
Hebrews 10 = Sanctification


Satan On Over Drive
  
God chose us to be IN HIM before the foundation of the world. The IN HIM is what Ephesians is about, THE MYSTERY kept secret but now revealed. The CHURCH is what Ephesians is about. The MYSTERY stated in Colossians 1:24-27....what PAULS MINISTRY was all about...the revelation of the MYSTERY CHURCH. This is a constant theme throughout Pauls epistles. So HOW does one come to be IN CHRIST, aka THE BODY OF CHRIST, forming THE CHURCH, in this dispensation? YES, Paul uses this word in Ephesians, DISPENSATION OF TIME.

Well unlike OT, TODAY we are justified by faith, as was OT, BUT WE, unlike them are baptized into His death and then raised up together with Him A NEW CREATURE... putting us IN CHRIST TODAY, NOT BEFORE WE EXISTED.


Close To End Times
  
Strongaxe, when I have posted many times here I am not a democrat, I do not believe in abortion, that both Dems and Rep in Gods eyes are worldly and carnal, that our citizenship is not here but heaven, that Jesus said my kingdom is not of this world.....and I still get called a baby killing democratic Fascist's this and that......THE PERSONS making this accusation ARE MORONS....STUPID PEOPLE WHO CAN NOT READ. Which does not mean fool, nor is it an insult....BUT A FACT.

And I will again call anyone a moron who ignores my words and falsely accused me again.

I find liars and false witnesses far more in danger of HELL FIRE.


Close To End Times
  
What I find peculiar is ven and Jerry calling others names like fascist , etc, and somehow that is ok. Yet no proof of anyone here of being a fascist. This is hateful name calling at its best, far worse than calling someone stupid.

This hypocricy needs to stop...the two faced double standard here. The failure to remove the oak tree from ones own eye before accusing another.

I do believe some people on here are nothing more than Trolls, looking for a fight.

With that, they simply do not exist as a helpful blogger for me anyway. And by ven's own words, he/she stalked me for sometime before coming on line to attack me. Not a good reason to be here.


Close To End Times
  
The bible describes the actions of a fool, the foolish, or foolishness, having nothing to do with a person's failure to read. But I never used the word fool...did I? I used the word MORON. And the word moron was not even in existance until 1910, does not mean fool.

But with all that, the many posts pointing out the shortcomings, including the president , which all here do is calling those ...what Strongaxe? And seeing that verse is grouped with poking out eyes and cutting off hands, which is not addressed to the Church , I'm comfortable calling it like I see it. I'm not going to lose my salvation over it nor are you for your MANY WORDS calling Republicans the same, without using the ---- word. Also not everyone is my brother.


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
Ven openly admitted he came online here to attack me before any words passed between ven and me. Ven had an evil motive right from the beginning, and now wants to play the victim in his own game he started.

Beware of ven and her evil motives of being here online. All should shun ven, because of her malicious heart from the beginning. The hypocrisy here is I have no free will and am only doing what God for ordained for me to do and ven is now accusing God .....so two faced in his doctrine.


Close To End Times
  
Strongaxe..the verse says WITHOUT A CAUSE. Well I believe I have cause. Therefore according to the verse I'm in danger of nothing. Paul called those who perverted the Gospel DOGS. Philippians 3. Would it be better if I called them dogs? Those who don't see Trump a danger IN THESE END TIMES are worse than dogs. And hurling insults and lies against those who warn others are MORONS...yes FOOLS. IT isn't a WORD that condemns someone but ven's actions and words go beyond calling others fools. He is actually the one calling others fools. IM JUST CALKING HIM A MORON FOR CALLING OTHERS FOOLS.



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