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The Calvinist System
David, The new creature is in no way an old patch put on an old garment. Another verse says you don't put new wine in old wine skins. The old is done away David, not patched over with Gentiles.

God is making IN CHRIST "ONE NEW MAN." AND THIS NEW MAN Is not a Jew or Gentile, not even male or female, .... A totally NEW CREATION. And is not patched over with old or even new patches. We are not a remnant of the old either. We are something so NEW, that only those baptized into Jesus death, where we died with Christ, completely incinerates any old, POOF, GONE, and a NEW CREATURE IS RAISED UP TOGETHER WITH CHRIST. BY GRACE YOU HAVE BEEN SAVED. This is the Gospel of Grace. NO LONGER I BUT CHRIST IN ME.

Sparrows Sold For A Farthing
Such a snowflake Cluny. WHINE WHINE WHINE. It's just not a manly thing to do. You have the disposition of a jr high GIRL. Are you an effeminate ? That would make sense of your antics. I think it's a fair question.

Salvation In The Church
Ok Clunky, I proved you wrong. I posted the same verses first that Strongaxe did, he adding one in Romans saying the same thing as Galatians and Colossians. So why say I DARE YOU. You see, THIS kind of harassment from Cluny should stop. It serves no purpose here except proving he has issues. He can't read, doesn't understand posts and then makes false accusations...on every single blog...just to get some snarky remark in trying to start a food fight. I'm sure I'm not the only one getting sick of it. And I'm not the only one Cluny makes snarky comments to.

God Bless President Trump
Those who KNOW HOW the Lord works KNOW those who use their own hateful means to vindicate themselves God will not vindicate. They in yourself not in the Lord, wait not on God, but run ahead of God and look like a fool, assuring God will NEVER join Himself or sully Himself with that kind of faithless antics.

But like I said ...only TRUE CHRISTIANITY knows the difference.

If Trump is so bent on protecting himself by his own mafia thug like means....he not only NOT DOING THE WILL OF GOD, but can't even obey the simplest of Christian obedience. God wants NOTHING to do with such people. You might pray for God to protect Trump from himself, as he is his own worse enemy.....that you want to blame on others.

How To Calculate 666
Actually Cluny, there is no such thing as Arab Palestinians, that is a hoax starting with Arafat the first terrorist. If you look in scripture in Genesis, the Palistinians are actually Philistines, from the island of Crete who have always been enemies of Israel going way back. No scripture or history shows ant such thing as a Palistinian other than the ones from Crete, and are not Arabs, nor were they Christians. This is the hoax, and like many who don't know history or the scriptures will buy into that hoax. The Palistinians now in Israel are probably Arabs from one of the Arab nations that were rejected and pushed out by their own people.

Churches To Illegal Immigrants
Is Nicole deflecting here because hundreds of CATHOLIC CHURCHES are hiding illegal immigrants where the majority of these coming from CATHOLIC COUNTRIES are CATHOLIC.

This is the subject at hand in this thread.

Funny how many are concerned with a higher population of Islam, but don't see the same issue with being over run with illegal CATHOLICS.

How To Get Saved
David, also what does Romans 10:9-10 say how one is saved? And exactly what did Philip say to the Eunuch? The man who died next to Jesus said...."Lord remember me when you come Into your kingdom. " He also admitted he was a sinner worthy of death. He acknowledged Jesus as LORD, and believed those things he heard.

Seven Spiritual Works Of Mercy
Also why bother listing ANY VERSES Monk when you all obviously get your own answers and spin from a gaychristian website.

All your answers on this subject, as Cluny keeps spinning Romans 1 Jude, Leviticus etc come directly from the GayChristian web site. REAL CHRISTIAN sites like Got Questions etc where many pastors groups never spin those verses as you all do, and actually show HOW and WHO is spinning them.

I'm not interested in the GayChristian spin. So why are you? We see the results of your spin right in the news every day, and the horrible abomination that has taken place for the last 2000 years you all continued on from Rome before its fall.

Seven Spiritual Works Of Mercy
Cluny, Strongaxe sodomy is a sin period. Stop trying to spin the conversation. Jude, Leviticus, Romans, and Genesis are very clear on the subject. There is no such thing as friendly there it is. SODOMY IS AN ABOMINATION TO GOD. PERIOD.



So you can either stop your harassment , seeing I hit a nerve, or this is going to be your forever reply from me, letting everyone know exactly why you are stalking me in the first place. You decide.

Church Bells Ringing
Cluny, sodomy even friendly sodomy is an abomination to God.....

Deal with it...ok

Yoke Of Bondage
Cluny, sodomy, even friendly sodomy is an abomination to God. Admit it, deal with it, and let's move on.

Attacking me in every thread because I hit a nerve needs to end...

Church Bells Ringing
I admit I did know either until I looked it up. Cluny

I find the sentence above by our own self stated stable genius does not know how to grammatically frame a coherent sentence.

Faith Without Works Dead
Also we see in that verse JS1234 that HIS PEOPLE aka The Jews for the most part rejected Jesus, and we see the Pharisees laugh about that. Then they crucified Him. THEN we see in Acts where again for the most part Israel HIS PEOPLE still rejected Jesus , so then God turns to the Gentiles.

There is actually a parable in the Gospels about that...I think it was about a feast or wedding, where the original invites didn't come, and then they went out into the streets and invited ANYONE who wanted to come. Called FREE WILL. JESUS didn't FORCE salvation on HIS PEOPLE or force a wedding on them.

Yoke Of Bondage
We also see in Galatians that these folks were already saved. So they weren't RESAVED when Paul said he would stay and form Christ in them AGAIN...we see in Galatians HAVING BEGUN IN TNE SPIRIT, are you Now being made perfect in the have fallen from Grace. Paul is not talking about initial salvation, but proceeding on by faith from where they BEGAN. They BEGAN by justification.

The LIFE that I NOW LIVE I live by the Faith of Christ.. Galatians about our sanctification. We don't stop living by faith after we are saved. NOR do we go back under the Law after we are saved.

Works Of The Law
David has us running in circles with two different subject matters he jumps back and forth.
1) bondage to sin vs being set free from sin
2) justification by faith vs justification by the law. I'm trying to see how he is marrying these two ideas together, but 1, .Justification is having our sin forgiven, 2, sanctification is being set free from sin.Scripture shows in Acts...sanctification is by faith.

No scripture teaches if we do enough works ( who knows how much is enough???) 1) you will eventually be forgiven ...OR 2) if you do enough works of the law you will eventually be set free from the power of sin. It's just not there. Not even the Law of Moses taught such things. The law was added so sin would ABOUND...ROMANS 5.

Is Donald Trump The Anti-Christ
To Melody......please answer: Why do you get so infuriated against someone that is telling the truth of those who openly and cynically have been exposing their rebellion against GOD - and my question to you: If you are a Born Again Christian, wouldn't you truly show your faithfulness to THE LORD in exposing wickedness as it is, in order for others not to fall under such deceit that only come from the enemy of the souls and in order for them to end up where it's final place will be . . . hell!

Pray For Our Nation
What a disgrace that this nation that was founded in Christianity, has now succumbed to the same Sodomite wickedness that sent destruction to the ancient places from THE LORD GOD that sees this sin as abominable: "All things shall pass away, but not HIS WORD" - Share it while time to do so!!!
---Melody on 7/22/18

All sin is an abomination to God. Yet if God had found even 10 righteous people he would not have destroyed S and G. I know there are more than 10 righteous folks in the USA.

Is THIS why the religious Right LOVE Putin and as some want a Putin for President? Now THAT IS SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS phariseeism. And this is today's Christianity?

First Amendment Right
But now conservatives are finally standing up to the abusive Left, exposing their lies, you try to defend them by describing it as hate...LOL. Was JC being a hateful abuser when he told Pharisees they were of their father the devil? Haz27///

But the "Pharisees" are/were the conservative right. According to Haz27, democrats are godless athiests to begin with. So this proves nothing, except Jesus rebuking self righteous Pharisees..those who inside are dead man's bones.

Haz27, it's best to keep God out of any of this. If here today he would again be rebuking the Pharisees.

Roman Chinese Christianity
Strongaxe, it's also possible that Monks response was NOT "better than".....but only in his own mind. Maybe it was more down and dirty...if he feels he was responding to a down and dirty attack. Monk does get rather personally nasty. You don't. Just his over the top down and dirty attack on the moderators without any unacceptable.

He condemned the Moderators without any proof of intentional wrongdoing. That's as bad as it gets. It doesn't need defending.

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