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Where Is Paradise
  
I clearly see that you interpret 2 Corinthians 15 in your own way to support your held belief, but this is not the teaching of the passages themselves - rather it is an assumption that you read into them. Anyway, you are entitled to your opinion, however misguided. God bless you.


Where Is Paradise
  
1)Thanks Brothers Bill and Ryan, for your responses. I honestly believe that the many scriptures given to you in all these posts here fully answer your questions regarding whether can we live without a body and when we do receive our spiritual bodies. But since you want answers with specific reference to 1 Cor 15, here they are.


Where Is Paradise
  
2)The Bible teaches that we rise with a different body than the one that is placed in the grave. "There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body" (1 Corinthians 15: 44). The natural body is what is "sown" in the grave, and the spiritual body is what is raised up (1 Corinthians 15: 37, 42-44). People on earth have an earthly body, while people in heaven have a spiritual, heavenly body (1 Corinthians 15: 46-49).


Where Is Paradise
  
3)The fact that people in the spiritual world have a spiritual body is evident from the appearance of angels mentioned above. For example, Saul recognized Samuel after his death because he had a body similar to the body he had on earth. Clearly it was Samuel's spiritual body, since his physical body was still in grave, and it was his spirit (1 Samuel 28:13) that had risen and was conversing with Saul.


Where Is Paradise
  
4)The fact that there is a spiritual body is also clear from the story of Lazarus and the rich man. After death Lazarus was in the bosom of Abraham, the rich man lifted his eyes, and asked that Lazarus might dip his finger in water to cool his tongue (Luke 16: 22-24).


Where Is Paradise
  
5)We brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out" (1 Timothy 6:7). When we go to our eternal home "then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it" (Ecclesiastes 12:5, 7, compare Genesis 3:19). So our earthly body cannot go to heaven, but when we put off our physical body, our corruptible and mortal life is changed into an incorruptible and immortal life (1 Corinthians 15: 53-54).


Where Is Paradise
  
6)Evidently when Paul said this, some people were wondering if everyone would sleep a long time in the grave before the resurrection, for Paul reassures people that we will not all sleep, and that it will not take ages but will happen immediately, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet, that is, when we die.


Where Is Paradise
  
7)One of the ways that Jesus teaches us about the life after death is by saying, "Unless a grain of wheat falls into the ground and dies, it remains alone, but if it dies, it produces much grain" (John 12: 24, compare Matthew 13:31, Mark 4:31, Luke 13:19).


Where Is Paradise
  
This is very similar to the analogy that Paul uses: "Someone will say, 'How are the dead raised up? And with what body do they come?' Foolish one, what you sow is not made alive unless it dies. And what you sow, you do not sow that body that shall be, but mere grainperhaps wheat or some other grain. But God gives it a body as he pleases, and to each seed its own body." (1 Corinthians 15: 35-38).


Where Is Paradise
  
8)When a seed is put into the ground, the outer husk of this seed simply rots away. But within that seed is a germ of life that is raised up with a completely new plant or body around it. Paul says very clearly here that the body which is raised is not the body which is put into the ground.


Where Is Paradise
  
9)Furthermore, when the farmer plants his seed, it immediately begins growing. It does not remain dormant in the ground for centuries before a new life begins. Likewise, when our bodies are buried in the ground, the germ of life within each of us is immediately raised up clothed with a new body appropriate for the spiritual world.


Where Is Paradise
  
10)Conclusion: Eternal life is not something that is waiting for us in the distant future. There is no reason to think that we have to wait for a long time, for Jesus tells us that for those who accept the life He gives, the kingdom of heaven is already within them (Luke 17:21), and they have already begun living eternally (John 5:24, 17:2, 1 John 5: 11, 12, 20). That life is not interrupted by death, but rather becomes more abundant and complete.


Where Is Paradise
  
1) Ryan,
You need to interpret Jn. 14:2 in context. This is Jesus' last teaching to His disciples before His crucifixion. Jesus' disciples were about to go through the greatest test of their faith that they had ever encountered. According to John 16:1 (which is a part of this same teaching), Jesus said He was saying these things so His disciples would not be offended. The reason for this is to comfort the disciples and help them put things in perspective.


Where Is Paradise
  

2) The Greek word for "house" is "oikia" meaning "a residence, abode, or home." This verse is simply stating that in heaven, there are many dwelling places and Jesus is preparing one for us. The use of the word "mansions" simply denotes that we will be taken care of in fine fashion. Simply because our body is referred to as a house or tent in some scriptures doesnt mean that everywhere the word house is mentioned it will be referring to the human body!


Where Is Paradise
  
Bill,

1) I can see from the posts that the brothers and sisters here have already fully answered your questions, using concrete scriptures. May be you want them to use some words (human language) that fits within what you know or desire to believe? You rightly talk about dividing the Word of Truth but your posts here dont prove it.


Where Is Paradise
  
3) Jesus said in John 5:28-29, ". . . For the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth, they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation." There is a future time when all people will be resurrected.


Where Is Paradise
  
3) What kind of resurrection will this be? John 5:28-29 makes it very clear that it will be the part of us that is in the grave, i.e. our physical bodies. In other words, it will be a bodily resurrection. Notice that it will be the voice of the Son of God that will bring them forth, some to a resurrection of life and others to a resurrection of damnation.


Where Is Paradise
  
4) At this time the immaterial part of man (soul-Rev. 6:9, and spirit-Jas. 2:26) will be reunited and reassembled with the material part (body). When a person dies physically, his body goes through a decomposition and returns to its original elements. However, the soul and spirit go into Heaven or into the lower parts of the earth (2 Cor. 5:8, Lk. 16:19-31), depending on their acceptance or rejection of salvation.


Where Is Paradise
  
5)1) True when we die (absent from the body) we are present with the Lord (2 Cor. 5:8). Paul did not believe, nor does the Bible teach, a soul sleep, where after death a person is just asleep or unconscious until the time of the resurrection. I hope this helps, but you are free to continue with your false, man made doctrine, brother!


6 Year Old Gets Baptised
  
Jack, your making up rules for baptism now? Of course you must understand when you are baptized. It's an outward volintary expression and commitment to serve Christ. God let's us make our own choices, right or wrong. We are not robots. Your Orthodox church may baptise infants, but it's moot.



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