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Is God In Control
  
StrongAxe
Where do you live?


Is God In Control
  
A good society needs a mixture of both. Society means "people working together for their mutual benefit" - the essence of socialism. Capitalism is "me first", the antithesis of the Gospel.---StrongAxe

StrongAxe
I Totally agree, and I see the plight of Socialism as honorable. But the problem, the reason that mix is impossible, is because the solution is found in the hearts of men.

For Greed is in the heart of the Rich, and the Poor. Where there is greed, there is no love. When you walk the homeless streets, you will see one man huddled in a corner, without a blanket, and one man, a few feet away, with 10 blankets. They act greedy, just like a rich man, so reversing the roles changes nothing.


Is God In Control
  
Just trying to have a constructive conversation here folks, giving you a platform. I asked a simple question about the economic plans for socialism, and out of that I am accused of everything except being a Christian.

Some ideas of Socialism I happen to like, but what many of us dont understand is the economics of it. Places where it has been tried, ended up forcing people into jobs without any hope for anything more than breathing, eating and sleeping, AKA....Government run Slavery.

I am interested in knowing if your economic plans have evolved into something which provides a little bit more than suffering through life.


Baptism Gone Wrong
  
Kathrine
I actually had never heard of nude baptisms before reading this blog, had you? If so, do you know which denominations practice this type of baptism?


Is God In Control
  
If you judge people by the quality of their character, why do you support our president? He regularly breaks most of the Ten Commandments.... ---StrongAxe

StrongAxe
I guess its because, If I used the Ten Commandments as a measurement to judge men, as you do, my Lord would see me as a hypocrite.

(Luke 6:37-38)
Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven. Give, and it shall be given unto you: good measure, pressed down and shaken together and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete, therewith it shall be measured to you.


Is God In Control
  
Kathrine
Like Martin Luther King, I see people by the quality of their character, and not by the color of their skin.

StrongAxe
We apparently see death and suffering....differently. To be honest, I see Suffering to be much worse than Death. A bad economy means joblessness, which leads to homelessness, hunger and even more disease.

A very small percent of the population is being killed by this virus, but the reaction to it, these shutdowns, have caused a large percent of the world population...to suffer, and will suffer long term. I would rather see someone die quickly from this disease, than to see someone who survived the disease, to die from hunger.


Is God In Control
  
StrongAxe & Kathrine
Do you believe the Democrats strategy of shutting down major cities in America, until next spring or summer, is the right decision?

If you do, can you explain how those cities and states will recover economically, when the Rich, who pay the majority of taxes in these cities, have moved on to other states?

This has left many of us, who simply dont understand the end game of socialism, scratching our heads.


Baptism Gone Wrong
  
Kathrine
As with many religions, the instructions from the shepherds of these churches, are seen as a higher authority than the Lord Jesus.

Many folks, whom I have questioned about certain practices in their churches, generally refer me to their pastor, rarely giving me a bible reference.

Not that I think naked baptism is a sin, but I do think it can easily lead one to lust, which is not exactly in line with Gods teachings. I believe most folks would need to pluck their eyes out to attend.

And if thine eye cause thee to fall, pluck it out and cast it from thee, it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire.
(Matthew 18:9)


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
Kathrine
I am not disputing what Paul or Peter said. I am only disputing your understanding of who they are speaking about.

They are saying it about those who have been Born Again, those who are born of God. The very fact, someone sins, is a sign this has not happened, according to Jesus (John 8:34 & 35) (1 John 3:9 & 10)
Can it still happen? Absolutely...but only if you make Jesus, your Lord.

How do you make Jesus Lord?
And why call ye Me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? (Luke 6:46)
You and many others are taught this is works and obedience to God plays no role in ones Salvation. Go back read the Gospel and make confession of sin a daily part of your life.


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
David Paul does not say SIN is destroyed. ---kath4453

Kathrine
I will reword it so you dont miss the point I want to make.

Paul says....(Romans 6:5-6)....our old man is crucified with Him,so that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

If we are crucified, we die,....correct?
If we die, our death destroys the body of sin, because it must die with the Old Man. You dont agree with this, can you explain why?


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
(Romans 6:5-6)...our old man is crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Kathrine
Paul says, Sin is destroyed...so that we should not serve sin. Now if we sin, after we believe sin has been destroyed,....has our Old Man been crucified?

If we do...what purpose does it serve for the Old Man to die...or for sin to be destroyed?


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
Kathrine
The word Died, is another major area in which we disagree. I define, death, as not exhibiting life. If sin has died in someone, how can they sin, if that which caused them to sin, has died?

Jesus called, Everyone who sins, a slave to sin. But again, this is the foundation on which I have built, so its very difficult to discuss this subject with someone who has built on another.

But truly, I do enjoy our conversations. We agree on somethings, so that must suffice for now.


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
Kathrine
Confession of sin keeps us in the light of God, and without that light, we live in darkness. This becomes evident, when someone who doesnt confess sin or hasnt done so in a long time, experiences the obvious cleansing and forgiveness of sin, promised in (1 John 1:9).

When folks are in the light, after the cleaning, then they will feel guilt for their sin, a guilt not felt for sin before the confession. Why did they not feel the guilt? Because before the confession, they were in the dark, and didnt recognize the sin in their life.

This guilt, when one remains in the light, will cause less sin, which means you are keeping the Lords commandments, which brings you the love of God. The greater the love, the less we sin.


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
Kathrine
Many carry (John 3:16) as a mere guidon, without truly understanding its meaning and the value of this teaching, which when understood, can lead one straight to Gods promised salvation.

If someone believes Jesus is the Son of God, they should also see him as the sacrificial Lamb of God. If they believe he is the sacrificial Lamb of God, they will demonstrate their belief, by confessing their sin before him. If we do not confess our sin before him, we show God, we do not believe in him.

Many folks disagree with my assessment of (John 3:16), that is, until they confess their sin before God, whereby they actually experience the cleansing mentioned in (John 1:9). If confession was a one off, nothing would happen.


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
Then Jesus the promised Messiah came ....which all those OT things pointed to...the FINISHED WORKS OF CHRIST ON THE CROSS. and sin not covered year after year but ONCE AND FOR ALL.
---kathr4453 on 9/23/20


Kathrine
What does this mean to you, that Jesus died for sin once and for all?
I believe Jesus because the, Once and for All, sacrificial required for sin, but confession of sin is still required.

Do you believe confession of sin is a one off...or a daily requirement for the daily sinner?


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
So I believe ALL OF JOHN is pointing to the time of AFTER Jesus death and resurrection, as NO ONE can be IN CHRIST or Christ in them until after His resurrection. ---kathr4453

Kathrine
Exactly!
Which by itself, proves, the Gospel of Jesus Christ is the way unto salvation. It could not have died with him, because everything he taught was not possible, until after his ascension.

Many folks wonder if they follow a false doctrine. And the only way to know, is to see if it makes the Gospel of Christ, the Truth...or a Lie. Many, unknowingly, make the teachings of Jesus a complete lie.


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
(1 Corinthians 2:9) But as it is written: Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man the things which God hath prepared for them that love Him.

Kathrine
I must admit, it is difficult to find a passage which says exactly what I said, but when you use the Gospel of Christ as a foundation for your teachings, it becomes clear.

The passage above is an example of this. The passage doesnt say who God loves, so if you havent read the Gospels, you must revert back to the foundational teachings of Jesus Christ (Baby Food), to understand who God loves...(John 14:21 & 23).


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
David, I'm asking you to put scripture here stating explicitly that "God saves those He Loves."
---kathr4453


(John (14:23) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love Me, he will keep My words, and My Father will love him, and We will come unto him and make Our abode with him.
Abode.... a place in which a person resides, residence, dwelling, habitation, home.

Kathryn
If a person is saved, will they not live where God lives? And to whom does Jesus make this offer? It is To those whom God loves. I am glad you accept (John 3:16), but folks like you and Samuel need to read the rest of the Lords Gospel to understand the context of (John 3:16).


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
Kathrine
God saves those he loves, and in John, Jesus tells us why God loves us. So though I didnt say it directly, your inference is correct.

When I disagree with someone, I argue in the hope that I can convince them I am right. But in your case, this is impossible, because my Salvation message is founded on the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and yours is not. Believe me, if I thought there was a chance, I would argue with you til Jesus comes.

I debated you in the past, but since you made me aware of this fact, I find any discussion on salvation to be a fruitless endeavor. How can I convince you, when you do not accept the Lords Gospel as the Truth?


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
John 8:34-35 say nothing about God deciding who to save.--kathr4453

Kathrine
Where did I say it did?



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