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Is God In Control
  
David:

It would be nice parties worked together. Unfortunately, the Democratic House passed 400 useful bills, many with bipartisan support, gathering dust on Mitch McConell's desk. He refuses to let the Senate to consider. He doesn't even trust his own party to vote them down. He is making the decision for them.

This man can single-handedly stop any legislation that he wants, with no recourse. This is more power than even the President has, because at least if the President vetoes a bill, 2/3 of both the House and Senate can override the veto. Also, the American people have the power to replace a bad president every 4 years. McConnell's fate is dependent on the citizens of Kentucky only, and nobody else has any say in it.


Is God In Control
  
RichardC:

To the left, socialism is Social Democracy - people are in charge, not corporations, and government serves the people.

To the right, socialism is Communiusm - nobody owns anything, and people serve the government. Arguing apples vs. oranges never solves anything.

What "confiscation and redistribution"? Taxation is modest unless you make $400,000 a year. Before Reagan, the highest tax bracket was around 90%, which made corporations re-invest in development (rather than hoarding it now). It was the greatest period of growth in U.S. history. We went to the MOON.

Since Reagan, EVERY Republican administration caused a recession, and EVERY Democratic administration pulled us out of it.


Is God In Control
  
David:

"Socialist" things we have in our country, without which life here would be much worse: highways, police, fire departments, air space, radio space, power and water and internet, consumer protection laws, emergency rooms, FDA to make sure food and drugs don't kill you, EPA to make sure corporations can't pollute so air and water don't kill you, minimum wage to prevent slave labor.

Without any of that, you get some of the horrors of unbridaled capitalism I mentioned in my last message.

Yes, greed can corrupt socialism (by making it less social), but greed is the very ESSENCE of Capitalism - capitalism (e.g. making people pay as much as you can possibly get them to do) is inherently corrupt.


Is God In Control
  
David:

Unbridled socialism is toxic, as you described. So is unbridled capitalism. 400 years ago, Dickensian England, with workhouses and children used as slave labor. 200 years ago, actual slave labor (Plantation owners could pay slaves nothing, rather than hire workers and pay them an honest wage as the Bible demands).

Today, companies like Amazon and Walmart make trillions in profits and pay no taxes, while their workers are paid so little, they rely on public assistance (that WE pay for) in addition to their wages.

A good society needs a mixture of both. Society means "people working together for their mutual benefit" - the essence of socialism. Capitalism is "me first", the antithesis of the Gospel.


Is God In Control
  
David:

You said SEE. What kind of character do you SEE in a man who violates most of the Ten Commandments, and practices most of the Seven Daily Sins? A man who claims to be Christian, yet whose actions go against almost everything Jesus ever taught? What makes you follow and defend such a man?

"All have fallen short of the glory of God", but Christians are supposed to STRIVE to follow God's laws, even though we occasionally stumble - very different continually breaking God's laws and boasting about it.

Apostles judged others for claiming to follow God's laws while not doing so. Were THEY hypocrites for doing so?

You still haven't explained why you favor euthanasia.


Is God In Control
  
David:

If you judge people by the quality of their character, why do you support our president? He regularly breaks most of the Ten Commandments, and proudly boasts about it. He regularly indulges in most of the Seven Deadly Sins. His actions run contrary to almost everything Jesus taught.

"I would rather see someone die quickly... than suffer..." is euthanasia, which pro-Life Christians condemn as evil and barbaric. If your grandmother had cancer, and was dying in terrible agony, would you pull the plug to end her suffering? This is a very difficult choice. Yet you are not only willing to make this choice for your own family, but for everyone else in the world, many of whom do not share your opinion.


Is God In Control
  
David:

The states with most COVID cases and deaths is dominated mostly by red states (governors recklessly opened without restrictions, and now reap the results), and not blue states (whose governors wisely held things back).

In Arizona, we have limited opening (bars closed, restaurants at half capacity, most other things are open, masks are strongly encouraged, and mandated by most businesses). Our infection rates are down 77%.

Democrats favor preserving human lives over the economy. Republicans favor preserving the economy over human lives. Do you value corporations or people more?

The Rich have means to avoid taxes the rest of us don't. Companies like Amazon make trillions and pay ZERO tax.


Is God In Control
  
Trump practices "stochstic terrorism". A leader announces displeasure against someone, and relies on fanatical followers to kill them, leaving the leader's hands clean. King Richard hated bishop Thomas a Becket, and said "Will noone rid me of this turbulent priest?" - then four knights murdered Becket.

Trump said "Liberate Michigan!". Some white nationalists planned a coup in six states, tried to kidnap Michigan governor. Did Trump denounce the terrorists? No. HE DENOUNCED THE GOVERNOR. This is the kind of "leader" we have, who thinks he has authority because he won an election, but doesn't give anyone else the same respect because they won theirs - UNLESS they agree with him. Wake up people!


Is God In Control
  
Nicole_Lacey:

Flu virus mutates constantly, so we need new vaccines for each new strain.

Most COVID deaths are a result of comorbidity. If you have lung cancer and will die within 5 years, but catch COVID and die in 3 weeks, the cause is COVID. You might have survived if you didn't have lung cancer, but you WOULD have survived FIVE YEARS without COVID. COVID is what accelerated your death, and is thus responsible for it.

A scenario they teach in first year law. If someone falls off a building and is about to hit the ground and die, and you shoot them as they fall, and kill them, YOU are guilty of murder, even if they were about to die anyway. If COVID kills you earlier than you would have died otherwise, COVID is the cause.


Is God In Control
  
Samuelbb7:

You wrote: Nailed it. How bout the one for the 19918 flu? Do you know that song?

I never knew, but Google search reveals several hits, including The Flu Pandemic Song.

There have been new ones this year. E.g. Several people have tranformed "My Sharona" into different versions of "My Corona". E.g.:

Ooh, my little Wuhan one. Viral one.
Comin' to congest my lungs.
Ay Corona!

Zoonotic transmission. Where's it from?
Bats or civet cats?
Who knows why, Corona?

When's it gonna stop? Fever cough, Wash your dirty hands
Why'd I ever stop in Hubei for vacation man
Why, Why-y, Why-y-y, Why-y-y-y, Ah CHOO!
M-m-m-my Corona!


Rude To Ask If One Is Saved
  
Samuelbb7:

You wrote: I usually ask what do you believe. Why? Then let their answers show me what I should ask next.

Exactly. It is very important to reach people with dialog, trying to understand what they believe, and seeing what common ground you have for discussion, and then introducing new concepts within the framework of their currnet understanding, rather than trying to beat them over the head with something they may not be ready or willing to hear.

A viral meme that has been circulating recently:
I have seen too many people with the Bible on their lips, and hate in their hearts.

And this is what Christians who come beating them over the head with bibles seem like.


Is God In Control
  
Samuelbb7:

Ring around the rosies
Pocket full of posies
Ashes, ashes
All fall down


One explanation for this children's rhyme is the Black Death. Some of the symptoms were a rosy rash, and sneezing until you fell down. Carters would make rounds through the city, calling "bring out your dead", and people would bring out dead bodies and throw them on the carts, where they would be taken away to be cremated. People kept flowers and herbs in their pockets to protect them from the plague, and from the terrible stench of the dead bodies.


Rude To Ask If One Is Saved
  
Nicole_Lacey:

Cluny had to move out of the place he was living at the end of January. Since there, he has been living in a series of temporary places, but he doesn't have access to the internet. That's why he hasn't been posting on here since then.


Close To End Times
  
David:

What, exactly, has Trump accomplished? Most of his campaign promises remain unfulfilled (building the Wall and making Mexico pay for it, repealing Obamacare and replacing it with something better, making sure Social Security and Medicare are safe - his new proposal to cut payroll taxes GUARANTEES that Social Security will be BANKRUPT by 2023). What has he done other than destroy our environmental protections, make us the laughing stock of he world, and kill 200,000 people?


Is God In Control
  
Samuelbb7:

Now Trump is pushing Herd Immunity.

That is how we virtually eliminated some plagues like Polio. If enough are resistant, plagues have no place to spread, like throwing a match on a pile of wet wood. We achieved this through mass vaccination (but due to anti-vaxxers, virtually extinct plagues like polio and measles are making a comeback again).

Without vaccination, at least 60% must to catch the disease and survive. Survivors will have resistance, but as about 5% who catch it die, this means before the U.S. achieves herd immunity, around THREE MILLION PEOPLE will die.

If 200,000 dead is bad, imagine FIFTEEN TIMES THAT MANY. This is what our genocidal president is proposing.


Is God In Control
  
Ven:

Fox is strongly right biased and rarely airs anything critical to Trump. "If Fox doesn't say it, it's a lie" is hopelessly naive. Don't rely on what ANY media outlets say. Look at TRUMP'S OWN twitter feed, or any media outlet (biased or not) that has links to it, because you can check out what he said out of his own mouth. Similar with video clips of him speaking. Or the White House's own web site for transcripts of his speeches. Sayig

Trump has not sued for libel any of the 24 women who accused him of rape, because the truth would come out. He fights tooth and nail to prevent giving a DNA sample. Why does Trump, again and again, fight tooth and nail to suppress evidence that would exonerate him, were he innocent?


Close To End Times
  
David:

Notice the context: "God puts kings in a place for a season and reason, so this is what it is right now"

In 2016, I thought Trump was the worst choice, but when he got elected, I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I had hoped he would abandon his childlike histrionics and become a mature and decent (if not good) president. Unfortunately, those hopes were naive.

Yes, we need to rally around our chosen leaders, even if they aren't our own personal first choice (THIS is what Washington was talking about). That doesn't mean we must endorse everything they do, especially when what they do is immoral or criminal. This doesn't mean we need to re-elect them later just because they're elected now.


Close To End Times
  
ven:

You can see what Trump writes ON HIS OWN TWITTER FEED, and hear what he says FROM HIS OWN MOUTH on videos. Both are easily accessible. Do two mouse clicks instead of claiming people lie. It's easy.

Google: trump third term
Forbes Sept. 13. CNN Aug 18. There are videos. He also made similar comments last year.

You accuse me of believing lies second hand, but I doubt you have ever personally heard anyone from Antifa advocating violence, only what is said about them. About 94% of protests are peaceful.

Much "Antifa" and "BLM" violence is white nationalists pretending to be them to smear their names. Violent tweets from "Antifa Laguna Beach" came from Krasnoyarsk, Russia.


Importance Of Free Will
  
ven:

We have free will, not by our own power, but because God himself chose to give it to us. If we didn't have free will, why would we constantly be exhorted to CHOOSE good over evil?

Satan is the "god of this earth", again, not by his own power, but because God put him in that position.



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