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Close To End Times
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

Here, those who claim Ephesians 2 is THEIR GOSPEL, yet in reality are still children of wrath by their example and words and animal like behavior of running in PACKS , easily led by the APE KING is so obvious in the DOC "UNFIT", using the behavior of APES as an example of the EARTHLY MINDED , in total contrast to ALL of what Ephesians teaches.

Importance Of Free Will

Genesis 3:5
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

What I see ven is a parallel of you offering up the forbidden fruit of Gnosticism that promises to OPEN MY EYES, .....but you are the one blind here. I will NEVER DISOBEY God by eating philosophy and vein deceipt. You have, and therefore nothing you say is THE PURE WORD OF GOD. So one FINAL WORD TO YOU HERE VEN....GET THEE BEHIND ME SATAN.

Was Peter Saved Early
It must be stressed AGAIN Jesus said " He'll was not made for man but for the Angels" This again also shows no one was chosen to be saved or lost before the foundation of the world. Hell was created before the foundation of the world . If we Infact did exist and some chosen for life and the rest created for hell, then JESUS HIMSELF would have made no such statement. He would have said HELL WAS MADE FOR THE FALLEN ANGELS AND THE UNFORTUNATE UNELECT MAN.

Also wouldn't scripture also say our names were written in the lambs book of life FROM BEFORE the foundation of the world...NOPE. It says FROM the foundation of the world. EVERY WORD MATTERS. Pay attention to detail folks.

People Reject God


The Calvinist doctrine about humanity is not only antithetical to human life but antithetical to what Genesis 3 actually says. It doesnt say Adams sin caused anyone to lose freewill or moral capacity. Quite the contrary, God says Behold the man has become as one of us, knowing good and evil, and then just a little later God says to Cain If you do well, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do well, sin is at the door and it desires to have you but you can conquer it. The Calvinist says we lost freewill in the fall but God tells Cain he has freewill and can conquer sin, and if he does so he will be accepted.

Is The Bible God's Words

Those IN CHRIST are now sons and not servants re The law. The CROSS re our identification with Jesus in death and resurrection life has set us free from sin. We are now servants of righteousness.
Romans 6:7For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Romans 6:18Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Romans 6:20For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

Romans 6:22But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

Romans 8:2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

God Bless President Trump
Interestingly the Trump administration's signature headline, ALTERNATIVE FACTS coined by KellyAnn Conway, at I'm sure the encouragement of D Trump, since a book of his was written on HOW TO LIE , where even Evanka has quoted from about altering the truth and its effectiveness, have been doing this from the very beginning..OPENLY AND ADMIT TO IT. God is not a liar or the author of confusion brought about by these ALTERNATIVE FACTS aka BLATANT LIES IN YOUR FACE. Fake TIME News covers, and the list goes on and on.

Satan is just greasing you all up for his great day.....with lying signs and wonders.

My prayer is the Lord will open eyes before it's too late, and will bring Christians to their knees who are leading others to hell.

How To Calculate 666
Also Arafat the head of the PLO ...."the first TERRORIST", was an Egyptian.

So this idea of having a "Palestinian" State is a big hoax playing into end times and will be a big player along with surrounding Arab nations who come against Israel. Many around the world have bought into this HOAX and will find themselves on the wrong side of Prophecy and Gods will. we know Pope John Paul and Arafat made a secret covenant between them in 2000, the Pope inviting Arafat to the Vatican....look it up. BIG RED FLAG!

Church On Doctrines
The BIGGEST MIRACLE of all, The death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Yes I do believe but so do the demons, so what does that prove? THE RESULTS of Jesus death and resurrection, THAT'S A MIRACLE, and the purpose of THIS MIRACLE. You Nicole do not believe we are sanctified through the body of Christ ONCE AND FOR ALL, Heb 10 ,that those who believe are crucified with Christ and raised up together with Him A NEW CREATURE Romans 6 Gal 6 .... That the way into the Holy of Holies has been opened that YOU Nicole can come boldly to the throne of GRACE to the Lord Himself Heb 4...YOU Nicole do not believe that MIRACLE. Everything in your RCC doctrine scoffs at those MIRACLES that were a result of Jesus Death and resurrection.

Death Penalty Biblical
Those reading from Genesis to Revelation know the meaning of condemn. If Jesus didn't come into the world to CONDEMN the world...then He came to SAVE ...that only takes place via FORGIVENESS.

The Gospel is one thing, setting up Governments and laws are another. Jesus , Paul, Peter etc never told GOVERNMENTS who believe in the separation of Church and state how to run their governments. Jesus didn't come to save governments, but INDIVIDUALS from HELL...

John 8:10-11

10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

Yoke Of Bondage
The " Body of Christ " is spoken 4 times in the NT in the following epistles.

Yet Colossians 1:24-27 tell us exactly what the Mystery is, and never say the phrase BODY OF CHRIST...
ALSO Timothy 1-2 ...1-2 Thessalonians, Galatians, Philippians are to the BOC THE CHURCH....without saying BOC. So again a nothing burger there....proves nothing.

Romans (1)
1 Corinthians (2)
Ephesians (1)

Seven Spiritual Works Of Mercy
Just wanted to point out Nicole's dishonesty.

What we know it doesn't mean , is , it doesn't mean sodomy , even friendly sodomy with a non stranger is beautiful in the eyes of the Lord.
---kathr4453 on 10/10/19

Faith Without Works Dead
Just a note to JS1234, I know you know the site Got Questions, as I saw you copy and paste one of their answers as your own, to one of Cluny's questions. I followed up with the next paragraph, but I put in ITALICIZED showing its someone else's words not my own. Anyway, you can look on that site again since you are familiar with it to see what MOST CHRISTIANS believe "Spiritual" death means.

It doesn't mean physical death. Also the SECOND DEATH, may be something you should study as well.

What Is Earthly Tabernacle
I also don't believe 2 Corinthians 5:1 is a stand alone verse, but must be read including verses 2-8 with verse 1, concludes in verse 8. Paul is talking about the BOC, the CHURCH, those IN CHRIST, will never be separated from Christ whether here in the body or dead, and separated from our body. Our SOUL goes home to be with the Lord.
Also Romans 8'says NOTHING including death can separate us from the Love of God IN CHRIST.

2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

Faith Without Works Dead
JS1234, on the same line of thought, if YOU want everyone in the end to go to heaven, that's ok with me too, HOWEVER, what God wants is an entirely different matter.

We are discussing Gods Word, not mans wants. So I find your comment here condescending , which is not much different than comments you seem to say you are above saying or doing. Sarcasm comes in all forms and fashion. Yours was loud and clear.

Turn Against Evil Doers
A rabbi during Jesus time was different than a rabbi today. Even the qualifications of most churches for a pastor or minister have changed. Paul, as one who learned under a rabbi could have qualified as a rabbi at that time. Jesus was called rabbi and never went to any formal school of learning.

The early church pastors or bishops only qualifications say nothing about formal education.

So in every sense of the word and definition, Paul was a simply means TEACHER. Paul was that and more. No need here to disect into another food fight.

Yoke Of Bondage
Cluny, I know what Galatians is about....but not everyone else does.

Many don't even know what LIBERTY why would they know that the yoke of bondage means being put back under the law? Not even the ORTHODOX believe in GRACE PLUS Cluny it appears YOU yourself don't know what it means.

But thanks for adding to my rewards with your NASTY NASTY comments.

I'll be sure to trample your questions pointing out all questions from you show how stupid you must be to even ask them in the first place.

Faith Without Works Dead
Well according to Jesus own works, ( as some here refuse to believe anything but Jesus words) told the thief who died next to Him...TODAY YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE. No time for works or fruit.

But some here like to ...even with that....pick and choose WHAT WORDS they like and don't like what Jesus said.

So ones church has nothing to do with it. One's personal opinions mean more than Gods word....sooooo dangerous.

Works Of The Law
This may be over some heads, but not for others who are growing in the GRACE AND KNOWLEDGE OF JESUS CHRIST. 7 in scripture mean PERFECT, COMPLETE REST, ect. Rest also meaning we have ceased from our own works. By one offering God has PERFECTED once and for all those who are sanctified in Christ (sic) Hebrews 10:14. Colossians says we are COMPLETE IN HIM. keep in mind IN HIM. And Paul says in Romans it is God who justifies the ungodly Romans 4:5....So again Paul never teaches we are justified by becoming justifiable through good works. We are justified by HIS BLOOD. ROMANS again YOUR OWN BLOOD WILL NOT DO. You cannot save yourself or shed your own blood.

WE ARE perfect, complete in Christ aka a 777. As opposed to a 666.

Works Of The Law
The problem with TEACHERS OF WORKS Is they put you in bondage again in some form or fashion, called LEGALIZED GRACE. It's what Galatians is all about. BEWARE!
Those who are in bondage to this false teaching have had their destiny here and now stolen away. Stolen by keeping you literally bound up in man made this or that , that you cannot hear the Lords voice saying to you....THIS IS MY WILL FOR YOU. Also in order to know His will you need to obey Romans 12:1-2. Then as you die daily to your own desires, the desires of the Lord will become loud and clear. What the Lord has for you, God does NOT tell David first to tell you. The Lord tells YOU directly. The ONLY TEACHER YOU NOW NEED concerning Doing Gods Will, is the Holy Spirit.

Works Of The Law
I'm also curious where David teaches his no Moses law works of commandments. He said he is not affiliated with ANY main stream is it some new Cult you have started? What do you call your group?

And is he or isn't he saying Romans 10:9-13 is a WORK OF COMMANDMENTS Jesus taught or is he now backing down on that one? Since in the a Gospels Jesus hadn't died and rose again does it fit into your works of commandments of Jesus taught that is not the Law of Moses?

So David is saying, if you WORK to keep these non Moses commandments you can SET YOURSELF FREE FROM SIN?????WRONG!

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