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Amy Barrett Woman Of Faith
kathr4453 * I know Amy is a religious Catholic, however that doesn't necessarily prove she is a Christian in the true sense of the definition based solely on scripture.

What do you mean by a religious Catholic?

While at it, please give me the true sense of the definition based on solely on scripture?

kathr4453 *They believe in a works salvation...correct?

No, we believe in Faith and Works as the Bible teaches us:

James 2:24 " We will be justify by our works and not by faith alone."

Rude To Ask If One Is Saved
Then how do you reconcile that with Ephesians 2:8-9:
For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
---StrongAxe on 11/20/20

By reading the next verse:

Ephesians 2:10 "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them."

What Is Your Truth

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, AKA GOD BREATHED) and is profitable for doctrine,

This says it all for me, and will rebuke anyone who claims their doctrine comes apart from Scripture.
---kathr4453 on 1/9/2

Let's see:

If you are saying that scripture is all you need, then pls give me scripture verses on:

The major beliefs of Christianity like the Trinity is not explicitly stated in scripture.

Same also for the two natures and wills of Christ.

The hypostatic union and the canon of scripture to name a few.

Celebrating Christmas Day

And you base this assumption on what... your belief Jesus was born on December 25? Therefore you conclude John must have been born late June? Seriously!

What scriptural evidence have you got to show John was born late June? The only "evidence" you have for a late June birth for John is your belief Jesus was born on the pagan holy day December 25! Sorry but that's pathetic!?
---David8318 on 12/30/19

And you want me to believe your man made interpretation of scripture?

You prove(laughing) that Jesus was born in September but can not tell me when John was born, why?

Are you claiming to be infallible in scripture?

Celebrating Christmas Day
//When was John born??//- Ruben.

Isn't it obvious!?

Luke 1:26 tells us Gabriel appeared to Mary announcing her pregnancy with Jesus during Elizabeth's six month pregnancy with John.

There is a number in Luke 1:26 which helps you understand when John was born.
---David8318 on 12/29/19

He was born in late June...

Celebrating Christmas Day

Luke 1:26 says Gabriel appeared to Mary announcing her pregnancy with Jesus 6 months after Elizabeth became pregnant with John (the baptiser).

Luke 1:8 says John's father, Zechariah was serving as priest at the time of John's conception during the priestly "division of Abijah", which fell on the 4th Jewish month (or June) 1Ch.24:7-18.

Thus- Jesus was born 15 months after "the division of Abijah" (ie. 6 months of Elizabeth's + 9 months of Mary's pregnancy). Jesus was born at the end of September.

When was John born??
---David8318 on 12/25/19

Interpret The Bible
David* Ruben
Jesus, die on the cross?

Speaking of the cross, Jesus said in Jhn 6:51 " if any one eats of this bread, he will live forever, and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world IS MY FLESH."

Was it symbolic or his real body on the cross?

David* The very fact, Jesus used bread and wine as a substitute for his body and blood, showed it to be symbolic.

The very fact when the Jews asked " How can this man gives us his flesh to eat " v52 and his response v53-58 was " For my Flesh is food indeed and my blood is drink indeed."v55
Nothing in those verse about being symbolic.

Again, as I said who determines whose interpretation is correct?

Interpret The Bible
Simply Measure what they say to be the Truth, with what Jesus taught. Dont be surprised, when you discover, most salvation teachings are the direct opposite of what Jesus taught.
---David on 11/25/19

Again who determines what Jesus taught is actually what you say? Example:

Jesus says in John 6:54-55 " He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life....For my flesh is is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed." You believe he is speaking symbolic while I don't, whose interpretation is correct and why?

Interpret The Bible
Jesus said that when the Holy Spirit comes He will guide you into all truth. No man interprets correctly without His guidance. aka exegesis = correct.

Peter spoke against those who interpreted on their own. aka eisegesis = error.
---Ianns on 11/16/19

Everyone one here claims to be guide by the Holy Spirit, so how do you know which interpretation is correct?

Dormition Of Mary
kathr4453* Has it ever occurred to you that not all believe as YOU do?

Has it even occurred to you that you could be wrong? Do you claim to be infallible in scripture, Y or N?

kathr4453* Many of us believe Mary is no different than all the Saints both big and small, aka CHRISTIANS who have passed , are asleep IN THE LORD.

Let's see,

An angel appear to her and told her will conceived a child who will rule the nation.

She is the Mother of God.

Everyone will call her blessed, which BTW is spiritual.

Has that happen to you or anyone you know off?

kathr4453* Mary was NOT bodily resurrected . It's HERESY!

Rev 12: Woman clothed with the Sun...Who is her child taken up to the throne?

Dormition Of Mary
Kathr-THE MOTHER OF GOD, please show your scripture, or accept many don't believe what is not in scripture.
---kathr4453 on 8/20/19

In Both Isaiah and Gospel of Matthew reads Isaiah 7:14, Matt. 1:23 a virgin will bear a Son named Emmanuel, which means (God is with us.)

John 1:14 God in flesh dwelt among us.

What was the name of the virgin who bear a Son, whose name is Emmanuel ( God in flesh among us):)

kathr4453* The Mother of My Lord is not the same as MOTHER OF GOD.

" And Peter said to Jesus, " Lord. it is well that we are here." MT 17: 4

Pls explain the difference between Elizabeth mother of my Lord and Peter and Martha Lord?

Do you call Mary blessed, btw?

Dormition Of Mary
kathr4453* Ruben,Jesus is fully God and fully man. So just because I don't say Mary is the Mother of God,

If Jesus is fully God and fully man, then pls explain why you won't call Mary the Mother of God?

Kathr_So I'll have to disagree with you on that one. Paul preached The Gospel and Scripture clearly says the Bereans searched the scriptures daily to see if what Paul was saying was true. The NT fulfills the promises of the Old....

They did not have the NT to look at, only the OT.

Kathr- Do Catholics actually read the Bible...? Or do they just make stuff up?

How do you think the Bible come about? Do you think it fell from the sky, who put the books together?

Dormition Of Mary
kathr4453 *Yes Ruben, false teachers

Paul says to Stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by WORD of mouth or letter."

We are discussing scripture alone not how much faith they had. It is not by scripture alone..Nice try I think:)

kathr4453* The Mother of My Lord is not the same as MOTHER OF GOD.

" And Peter said to Jesus, " Lord. it is well that we are here." MT 17: 4

" Martha said to Jesus, Lord, if you had been here my brother would not have died." JHN 17: 21

" What have you to do with us,
O Son of God." Mt 8: 29

Here the demon knew Jesus was God, but you refuse to call him God in his humanity, very interesting!

Dormition Of Mary
kathr4453* Philip showed this was Jesus. PERFECT.

That is my point.The Eunuch said to Philip " About whom, does the prophet say this, about himself or some one else? v8:34-going by the bible alone did him no good.

kathr Paul never taught ever said Mary was the MOTHER OF GOD.

He didn't but Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit SHOUTED with a loud cry, Why is the granted to me, that the MOTHER OF MY LORD should come to me? Lk 1:43

Kathr I just read both 1st and 2nd Thesselonians.

Go back and reread 2 Thess 2: 15 slowly - ' Stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by WORD of mouth or letter."

Dormition Of Mary
kathr4453 * Rube, Acts 17:11

Let's see,

Acts 17:11 " Now Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scripture daily to see if what Paul said was true."

The Ot does not identify Jesus as the Messiah, it was no way that the Berea using the OT ONLY to have proven from scripture that Jesus was the Messiah. The Bereans were noble because they accepted Paul oral teaching and now they can examined and looked at Isaiah 53 and the connecting his teaching and the passage of the suffering servant. The Thessalonians on the other hand were like you and reject Paul's teaching and went on their own interpretation of scripture!

Dormition Of Mary
kathr4453* Ruben, by your way of rationalization, I can say Martians ARE eating breakfast right now at Waffle House, because the Bible never said they couldn't .

But the Bible does have the three gospels I mention, again I ask who wrote those gospels?

kathr4453* So,tired of that line of reasoning. . I know you do not believe scripture is the Authority of God.

And I am so tired of people misquoting what I wrote. Again where in scripture does it say the Bible is sole Authority? If you believe this pls give me chapter and verse?

kathr4453*GOD does not have a Mother. Jesus YES who is God incarnate has an earthly mother who gave birth to His humanity.

So in his humanity, he was not God?

Dormition Of Mary
Do you believe Mary is the Mother of God?

Show me in scripture where it shows Matthew, Mark and John are the authors of the gospels.

Where in scripture does it say all you need is the bible?

Where does Jesus tell the apostles to write everything down?

Feast of the Transfiguration
As I sat in Mass, I reflect on the words God the Father told the Apostles " This is my beloved Son listen to him"

A reminder that at times I do forget to listen to him, remembering the scripture verse of 1 Jhn 3: 2-3 " What we do know is this: when he is reveled, we will be like him, for we will him as he is. And all who have this hope in him purity themselves, just as he is pure."

Transfigure us O Lord- A Men!

Loved Ones Are In Hell

If this is what God is going to do in Christ, then hell cannot be permanent. You can't have a permanent hell and the reconciliation of all things to God at the same time. It is logically impossible.
---JS1234 on 7/23/19<

What do you do with the scripture verse that say it is ever-lasting?

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