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How To Received Jesus Christ
(Romans 4:20-24)
He (Abraham) staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief, but was strong in faith, giving glory to God,

And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.

Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him,

But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, IF IF IF IF IF we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead

The word IF signifies a CONDITION of salvation. God requires faith. Faith is not a work (Romans 4:4,5), but it gives us access to Gods grace (Romans 5:2)

Never Heard About Jesus
francis, your theology is very very bad. You have people without Christ going into heaven---MarkV

Mark, does that mean you think dead 6 year olds will burn in the lake of fire?

10 Commandments Eliminated
I pity those who are so afraid of Gods judgement that they cant even trust him with their infirmities. They dont truly love God, they are simply terrified of him.

The law condemns...

The Spirit brings life...

There is not one place in scripture that says the day we receive the Spirit of Christ that we are sinless while IN THIS BODY. The Spirit renews our minds. Its is a growth process. Its not instantaneous.

Just in case any of us think because we've followed the 10 commandments "perfectly" as a Christian that we are going to heaven because of it, have you sold everything that you have and given it to the poor yet? (Mark 10:21)

Will Jesus Save Israel
My theology was from scripture. Not a quote that I copied and pasted from someone else online. The last line was yours however.

When are you gonna think for yourself and stop using the words of others?

I know I dont wanna base my eternal existance on someone ELSES faith! Do you?

Will Jesus Save Israel
Mark, God desires all men to know the truth and be saved (1 Tim 2:4) and he is longsuffering towards us .

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord... is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance

If man plays no part in his own salvation, and God MAKES men repentant and MAKES them believe in Jesus, what reason does he have to be longsuffering with us? What is He patiently enduring? His own plan?

Do you see where I'm coming from? For goodness sake, Mark, open your eyes!

Will Jesus Save Israel
MarkV, the only reason ANYONE is counted as righteous is because Christs righteousness is imputed to us. So its not a matter of what sins a person has committed in their life, but whether or not they place their trust in Jesus Christ.

There is just as much grace for the murderer as there is for the candy thief. If you dont think so then you simply dont read your Bible. Most of the new testament is written by one of those murdering types. One that murdered CHRISTIANS!!

Anyone who believes they are better than most will cling to a doctrine that strokes their ego. What better way than to preach God loves only some and then naturally to include yourself in that group.

You break my heart that you call yourself a Christian.

Will Jesus Save Israel
MarkV, what about those who do not love as Christ did? Where are they going to spend eternity?

"I sure don't wish they will go to heaven. Do you? We are to love our neighbor, but can we love a person who rapes and murders your child? Do you have that love? I don't" ---Mark_V. on 4/10/12

"Jesus did not die to save the wicked man who molest, torture and kill children. Or those who suck the brains out of an unborn baby with a vacuum cleaner, and those who step on His Word without fear of God. No, Jesus didn't die for those. My heart does not hurt one bit for them. I don't know what spirit is making you feel the way you feel.
---Mark_V. on 4/9/12

You, my friend, don't know Jesus.

Will Jesus Save Israel

How great a guy I am? I said nothing of the sort. I know Im a scumball and thats why I know I need Jesus. You really like to manipulate others words don't you? No doubt a tactics used by those who deceived you into believing your current doctrine.

I pity you, Mark. I really do. You cant even think for yourself because those who sucked you in have you scared to death to question what youve been taught. That, my friend, is the sign of a cult.

"Man plays no part in getting saved"---MarkV

"No one decides he wants to be one of the elect, that is done by God before the foundation of the world"---MarkV

"You better make sure you are one of the elect"---MarkV

Will Jesus Save Israel
So much confusion...

"You better make sure you are one of the elect"---MarkV

"You don't realize you are one of the elect until after you are saved"---MarkV

"A man is not saved because he believes in Christ, he believes in Christ because he is saved"---MarkV

"In order to be saved you have to believe in the Son of God"---MarkV

"God cannot die. And Jesus died on the Cross. The Jesus Christ you present is not of the Christian faith...A created son who died on the cross. Your are an opposer to the faith."----MarkV

Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man, but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man

Will Jesus Save Israel
MarkV, rest assured I am no woman. And once again, you completely missed the point. If SCRIPTURE says man plays a part in making his election sure, why do you still cling to the delusion that it is already pre-determined and man plays NO part in his own salvation?

What you're essentially saying is, make sure that your fate is the way God planned it for you. Can you not see how confused you are?

A salvation that is "conditionally predestined" based on a mans actions? Thats completely oxymoronic. Scripture says the predestination is based on FOREKNOWLEDGE. God sees the future and the choices man will make.

You have to pick one. Either man has no choice in whether or not he accepts Jesus Christ or he does.

Can God Use False Teachers
MarkV, sounds like youre saying one needs to be born of the Spirit to WANT to come to Jesus Christ so he can then be .....born of the Spirit... again? (scratches head)

So one must be born of God to want to come to... God.... so he can then be... born of God.

I gotta admit, that sounds a little off the wall to me. Most Christians understand that rebirth comes AFTER faith in Jesus Christ for that is the moment that the Spirit of Christ comes to live IN us.

Breathe Air In Heaven
It seems pretty clear from scripture. "Sin" was not imputed to men until the law came. So all those from Adam to the time of Moses died a physical death but were not condemned spiritually.

Everyone from Moses to Christs dead was under the law. One set of laws as a moral code, one set directing us how to make atonement for when we broke the moral code. NONE of the old testament patriarchs were "under grace". They were all shut up to that faith which should come later on! Its scriptural! They all made animal sacrifices according to the sacrificial law because they were not cleansed by the blood of Christ yet! Even Jesus told men to make sacrifices according to the law of Moses before He was crucified.

Body Of Christ And Bride Same
MarkV, you seem to copy and paste a lot of things from the internet.

One post you're repeatedly misspelling commonly used words, and then in the next you sound like a college professor.

Maybe instead of copying the thoughts of others, it would help you to do your own thinking. If you're going to use someone elses words at least give them credit for it instead of making it look like they are your own.

Do We Have Free Will
Mark, I used to think you were just argumentative but now Im convinced the problem lies in your comprehension.

From the "WAS MAN EVER IMMORTAL" blog, you said...

"Giving a person a choice is not saying he has free will"---MarkV

Free will IS the ability to choose for ourselves!

Having free will doesnt guarantee we will ALWAYS make the wrong decision nor the right one!

This idea that men who are "dead" cannot choose to do the right thing is ludicrous! Your mind has been poisoned with it! It is blinding you, brother

Choosing Jesus Christ is a GOOD decision and one that God requires of us. God would not ask us to do something that we are incapable of.

Explain Genesis 3:15
Mark, I said Israelites, not Jews. Not all Israelites are Jews.

Explain Genesis 3:15
//"Even so then, "at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace." And if by grace, then it is no longer of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace"
(Romans 11:5,6).
You need to understand election to understand the remnant.
---Mark_V. on 7/9/12//

That passage is clearly talking about the Israelites (not Gentiles) (11:1) They were all blinded, but God reserved a remnant for himself.

Tribulation December 21st 2012
//So every day when she calls my wife, she wants to know more about the end times//---markv

Im sorry mark, but I thought your wife had passed away. Im a little confused here

New Revelation Not In Bible
Jesus taught more than keeping the law...

He taught us how to show mercy just as he did to us. He also taught us to be humble and not haughty.

Is Christianity A Blind Faith
Mans reasoning is seriously flawed. Look at science and how often they change their facts. We are in a state of discovery. God already knows everything.

A childlike faith is what God seeks. We have to be willing to set aside our own understanding and trust God.

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