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The Mind Of Christ
  
For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

This passage is quoted from #Isa 40:13. The interrogative form is a strong mode of denying that any one has ever known the mind of the Lord. The argument of Paul is this: 'No one can understand God. No one can fully comprehend his plans, his feelings, his views, his designs. No one by nature, under the influence of sense and passion, is either disposed to investigate his truths, or loves them when they are revealed.


Harry Potter Movies Sinful
  
Those that believe the Harry Potter fantasy books are harmful and teach witchcraft should go a step further and read 'the wisdom of Harry Potter - what our favorite hero teaches about moral choices' by Edmund Kern and 'the gospel according to Harry Potter' by Connie Neal who is a Christian educator.

All too often those that condemn books get nearly all of their information second hand from preachers who spend much of their time finding fault with others. Neither will spend any significant amount of time in finding out what the truth really is.

Mt 15:14b And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.


Why Was The Sabbath Changed
  
SuzieH - *For it had been better for them
not to have known the way of righteousness,
than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

Since there is a definite article before the word 'commandment' what commandment is being viewed in this verse?

Hopefully you do not view it as the 4th commandment since nowhere in the NT or in the writings of the early fathers do we see anything that promotes the observance of the Sabbath.


Fulfil Or Destroy The Law
  
Pierre - In theory, those who walk by the Spirit will fulfill the requirements of the law.

For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

However, there is a continuous conflict between flesh & the Spirit.

7:22-23 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.


Take A Mans Last Name
  
drc0369 - *I am actually doing a study on the Sabbath now ...

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Did Jesus Fulfill The Law
  
SuzieH - suggest that the answer to your question is in Romans 6. While we are free from the law, we do not have a license to sin as we died to that when we became born again in Christ.

Romans 6:1-4 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.


Did Jesus Fulfill The Law
  
Jerry - *Does it (fulfil) mean "destroy, erase, obliterate nullify or make of none effect," as some believe? Does it mean to keep sucessfully?

It really cannot have any of these meanings since the verse states Christ came NOT TO DESTROY, but to fulfil.

Fulfil would then have to mean that Christ by obeying all the Mosaic law actually accomplished the purpose for which it was given.

Fortunately, those in Christ are not subject to the law but as members of God's family are treated as sons & daughters coming under that discipline.


Purpose Of 7th Commandment
  
Leslie - your really need to read Acts 15. Gentile converts were NOT required to keep laws that were strictly Jewish. I hate to say this but your theology is that when one accepts Christ as Lord & Savior, he or she become a Jew. That issue was settled at the Jerusalem council.

Acts 15:5 But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, It is necessary to circumcise them AND to order them to keep the law of Moses.

Circumcision was the entrance rite into the Jewish religion. If you became physically circumcised, you were thereafter required to keep the Jewish Sabbath, dietary laws, the feasts & other laws that were strictly Jewish.

Your theology indicates you do not know the Scripture.


Purpose Of 7th Commandment
  
Lesie - *Pharisee and ALL others - 2nd - Just think of (in the world) if you had no red lights, stop signs, or speed limits.

There is no problem with rules, laws & regulations that are beneficial to us, however, the 7th day Sabbath is not mandated anywhere in the New Covenant of the church.

If we would only heed Romans 13:9 The commandments, You shall not commit adultery, not murder, not steal, not covet, & any other commandment, are summed up in this word: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.

If we would indeed do that and not observe any day as holy, what would we really lack? If you answered nothing, you got the right answer.


Purpose Of 7th Commandment
  
dconklin - *The Sabbath runs from sunset to sunset, not by the click.

For those living in either the most northern or most southern parts of the world, there can be no sundown on certain days and they do not even see the sun for many days in the winter.

Old Ellen White has this question thrown at her and all she could say is that people should not live in such frigid climates.

For the Christians, the Sabbath is the Lord's day - Sunday.

Lets face it, it would not have been feasible to demand Gentile converts to observe the OT sabbath in light of the fact, that Saturday was a work day in the Gentile world.


Purpose Of 7th Commandment
  
djconklin - Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch,110 A.D. says 'Those who have walked in ancient practices attain unto newness of hope, NO LONGER observing the Sabbaths, but fashioning their lives after the Lord's Day, that we may be found disciples of Jesus Christ, our only teacher.'

Irenaeus 155 A.d. Tertullian 200 A.d. and Eusebius 315 A.d. repudiated the 7th day Sabbath and recognized the 1st day of the week as the Lord's day.

Sorry guy, but Advenists are forced to ignore early church history in order to support Sabbath observance.


Purpose Of 7th Commandment
  
Leslie stated: "Jesus, the disciples, and the early church apostles ALL kept the Sabbath by going to Synagog (Temple) or house church"

That is TRUE but only pertained to Hebrew or Jewish converts, NOT to Gentile converts.

If you were to take the time to study the writings of the early church fathers you would find that NONE of them advocated observance of the OT Sabbath to the Gentile church.

Furthermore, there is VIRTUALLY no command or even a suggestion in the New Testament that Christians need observe any day. If such a command were essential you would see something of it in the New Testaments, but we do not.


Purpose Of 7th Commandment
  
Scholars have found that by the end of the first century, the church outside of Palestine no longer observed the OT Sabbath. That would lead us to believe that the Apostles and their immediate successors did not teach the OT sabbath to Gentile converts. Acts 15

The Gentile world considered Saturday to be a workday and thus observance of the OT sabbath would have been unfeasible in light of the fact that most of the early converts to the Christian faith were of the lower economical and social classes.



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