IT has nothing to do with what any one says , IT,s what does the BIBLE SAYS.
EPHESIANS 1,4 ACCORDING as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world,------------
4,5 Having PREDESTINATED us unto the adoption of children by JESUS CHRIST to himself,according to the good pleasure of his will,
1 THESSALIONIANS 1:4 KNOWING brethren beloved, your election of GOD,
JOEL 2:32 AND it came to pass that whatsoever,that whosoever called on the name of the LORD shall be delivered, for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall deliverance, as the LORD hath said,and in the REMNANT whom the LORD SHALL CALL.