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What Is Earthly Tabernacle
  
Joseph I will have to think on what you've said. The carnal nature as our "earthly house" sounds reasonable, considering the carnal mind is "enmity against God" and can't be subject to His laws. However what Kath says about the Soul agrees with what I've heard.


What Is Earthly Tabernacle
  
"Where did you get the idea that "earthly house" and "our tabernacle" were two different things, Bryan?" Because the words reads as separate words with separate meanings. The "earthly house" 'of this' "tabernacle". Seems clear to me.


What Is Earthly Tabernacle
  
"It's talking about our physical bodies." Cluny If earthly house refers to the physical body, what does "this tabernacle" refer to?


Rich Man Lazarus
  
Loonie1 asked Mark "What exactly is Abraham's bosom?" Bill gave what I consider a practical answer to this question. I didn't understand Cluny's. Are there any others out there. I know Jesus didn't just use words without meaning even when offering a parable. I've heard it was a reference to paradise, my question is why He didn't just make that plain? He had no problem using the word when addressing the thief.


What Is The Curse Of Ham
  
Thank you Pg1. You are right, those verses would have to be "grossly taken out of context" to even attempt to justify "white supremacy" and the enslavement of African people, as if that foolishness and injustice could be justified.


What Is The Curse Of Ham
  
Pg1 could you list some of the others?


What Is The Curse Of Ham
  
Joseph their view just seem to me to be a plausible explanation for all I've seen and read concerning the experiences of black race historically. I just don't understand why a certain people has been used, exploited, and treated so poorly. I guess It will remain a mystery? Thank you for you response.


What Is The Curse Of Ham
  
Joseph how does Noah cursing Canaan rather than Ham change the senarial that I have set forth? Why do you think they were "pulling my change"?


What Is The Curse Of Ham
  
Joseph, I have heard that the curse of ham explains the plight of the black man throughout history. It was said that Ham is the origin of the black race and his descendants were curse to be servants of Shem, who is said to be the origin of the white race. That the white race is guiltless in slavery because that slavery was ordained? Those who promote that view base it on Gen 9:26 & 27. I've read the statements, however I don't understand why God would honor designating one man subservient to another. I've always thought Him to be no respecter of persons although scripture does suggest that Jews are His favorite, and the fact remains the He has allowed slavery.


Jesus Son Of Man
  
Josef thank you for directly answering my question. Your responses were extremely helpful and explained this question in a way that I can understand. I also would like to thank Leon and Bill for their attempt. Richard I appreciate the Scriptures although I am not sure how they relate. The remaining post seem to be a discussion of the trinity, and I fail to understand what the trinity has to do with Jesus being called the son of man. John how does John 1:1-18 address or relate to my question?


Jesus Son Of Man
  
"Because He was born of a Virgin. Thus He is truly the SON the Man.
That's why He isn't called a son of man, but The Son of Man."


Nicole what does this have to do with Jesus being called the son of man?

"In His image means LIKE HIM, spiritually & physically."

How do you know that Gen 1:26,27 references the physical? 1Co 15:47,49
Leon the first man is of the earth, earthy: we bear the image of the earthy.

"without the need for male intercourse."

Josef how is the need for male intercourse relevant?


Jesus Son Of Man
  
Josef thanks for the references, your statements makes sense, but I don't know if I would have come to the same conclusions.


Jesus Son Of Man
  
Interesting view Josef, what are you basing it on?


Jesus Son Of Man
  
Leon the bible states that God is Spirit, Jhn 4:24, and Jesus said a spirit doesn't have flesh and bone. Luk 24:39 The Bible also states that God is invisible and uncontainable. Col 1:15,1Ti 1:17,2Ch 6:18. In His image has to mean something other than physical image.


Jesus Son Of Man
  
Josef I have read your posts but I don't quite understand them. Exactly what are you saying?


Jesus Son Of Man
  
Leon men have one X chromosome and one Y chromosome, the latter being responsible for the characteristics that make men male. In contrast, women have two copies of the X chromosome. Scripture states he was made like unto us in every way. Heb 2:17 If no human male was involved where did the Y chromosome come from? I know God made a man from dust, but Jesus was formed in the womb. If incarnate the womb wasn't necessary, and Jesus wasn't human, just in human form, and the formation and birth was just an illusion.


Jesus Son Of Man
  
"a body was prepared for him. What does that mean to you Bryan?"

I think it means what it says Leon, God prepared a body for him, my question is how? Are there any scripture that explain it? I know God can do anything, and that the Holy Spirit overshadow Mary when she conceived, but according to the word Jesus was made like into us, in every way. I know it don't really matter it's just something that I have alway been curious about.


Jesus Son Of Man
  
"Sir, the Lord Jesus Christ didn't cease being God when he took on Human Flesh. He was 100% God and 100 % human/man." How?
You did not answer the question asked "how does being born of a woman make Jesus a human being?" And what make you think that He took on human flesh? Scripture states that a body was prepared for him. Heb 10:5


Jesus Son Of Man
  
Leon how does being born of a woman make Jesus a human being?
Human beings are not "human" if not produced of both man and woman.



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