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Who Are The Children Of Promise
  
We're given rewards for our works. Some will receive greater rewards than others. Only those done IN CHRIST WILL BE REWARDED. EPHESIANS 2:10. Selfrighteous self effort works will be burned up.


1 Cor 3:11-15 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble, Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire, and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire.


Who Are The Children Of Promise
  
Now I understand where he comes up with the false accusations he extrapolated out of my posts. I guess that's a clever way one thinks they can manipulate another. The YES OR NO only demand or saying "anything else is of the devil", is also manipulation.

We simply put out the truth of scripture and one can believe or not. When others try to force their beliefs on you, RUN. FAITH is something beyond human reasoning. Example. No one can possibly reason parting the Red Sea. Moses simply put his faith in God that God would do what He promised. If Moses tried to reason it out there would be no living Jews today.

If you don't Believe in Gods promises that's on you. Not all men have FAITH.


Who Are The Children Of Promise
  
James 2:20, 26 makes clear that good works are a result of salvation not its cause. So good works are the fruit of salvation, not the root of salvation. This is Romans 7, God wants FRUIT out of a saved life. Some will bring forth 30% some 70% some 100 % . So we're not saved by our fruit. But fruit comes from those who's branches are attached to the vine. Jesus is the vine..the life force.

Hebrews 9:17 is also an awesome verse. Through the blood of Jesus our conscience has been purged from dead works to serve the living God. So DEAD WORKS must be all works apart from CHRIST IN YOU. And those who the Blood of Jesus has purged and cleansed ARE SAVED NOW. God has saved us so HIS GLORY CAN BE SEEN IN US.


Who Are The Children Of Promise
  
Jesus frees us from sin. Our death with Jesus is what frees the old man from sin. The verse says that THOSE ALIVE FROM THE DEAD surrender their RISEN WITH CHRIST MEMBERS to righteousness.

It's what DAVID LEAVES OUT that is what is glaring heresy.vs 17 BUT GOD BE THANKED...
Verse 18. Being then made FREE FRIM SIN. YE BECAME THE SERVANTS Of RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Ye became means it happened.
It's all included in the Promised we see CLEARLY in Hebrews 13:20-21. God working in us to will and do of his good pleasure.

God has it all covered David. GOD BE THANKED. We can see clearly what Paul teaches. It is not what you teach. We don't need your commentary. We only need the Holy Spirit to teach this truth.


Who Are The Children Of Promise
  
There's no scripture that state "the lost sheep" are the Nth House scattered. Lost sheep is not lost tribes. The lost sheep are clearly stated as those who have gone astray., clearly stated in Isaiah 53:6 reiterated in 1st Peter 2:25.

If perhaps one actually read this all of Isaiah 53, it's talking about the Messiah who died for our sin to bring us back.....NOW, if that were to the Nth house ONLY...then Jesus only died for the Nth house ONLY. WRONG.

PETER again reiterates this same prophecy in 1 Peter 2:25, that by HIS STRIPES we are healed. AKA SAVED GIVEN ETERNAL LIFE ......not 10 tribes now found scattered among the Nations. HE ADDRESSED ALL 12 TRIBES.

Some teach nonsense who don't know scripture. BEWARE!


Who Are The Children Of Promise
  
Also David I believe Romans 6:1-15 answer what verses 16-17 are about.

When you watch a movie, do you start in the middle and just make up the beginning , or do you go back to see how it began. Paul said we DIED To sin and are no longer servants of Sin. Only those IN CHRIST have died to sin. Is this the verse you don't grasp... Being baptized into His death? We DIED to sin when we were baptized into His death as we also died with Christ.

And it appears in Chapter 7 God wants us to bring forth FRUIT, not works. The FRUIT COMES from CHRIST IN YOU. JOHN 15 MAKE THAT CLEAR.

Why won't you address those verses? You never have ...why is that?


Who Are The Children Of Promise
  
David the obedience of that form of doctrine delivered unto us is THE PREACHING OF THE CROSS. This OBEDIENCE is the obedience OF FAITH. Read how Paul finishes AKA SUMMARIZES the whole letter of Romans . That SUMMARY, IS STATED IN ROMANS 16:24-27. So every word of Romans from chapter 1 to the end is SUMMARIZED in Romans 16.

Obedience of faith according to the MYSTERY....THE MYSTERY IS CHRIST IN YOU THE HOPE OF GLORY. Colossians 1:24-27.

It's all so simply stated in scripture.

Do you know how the different parts of a letter is constructed? That is what all epistles are.,LETTERS TO THE CHURCH.

SALUTATIONS
SUBJECT
BODY
CONCLUSION,OR SUMMARY
ENDING

ITS NOT something one cherry picks.


Who Are The Children Of Promise
  
Strongaxe, I dont believe Trav has read Acts, any of it for that matter. He seems to think EVERY JEW Israel Nth House from Pentecost to today has been personally struck down by the Lord Himself, and blinded with Jesus saying "Paul Paul WHY ARE YOU PERSECUTING ME? Funny many Jews after Pauls's conversion tried to kill him for converting to Christianity.

I actually don't think Trav has a REAL Bible. one with the ENTIRE word of God in it. Just a book of selected scriptures.

Funny even today Jewish families denounce family members who have become Christians or marry Christians. I bet Trav never saw Fiddler on the Roof either.

Ignorance is not bliss here. its dangerous.
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Who Are The Children Of Promise
  
Joh 6:44No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

God does the calling and drawing, but one can resist that draw and CAN INSULT the Spirit of Grace. No one can come to the Father except THROUGH JESUS CHRIST.

God Draws us to HIMSELF through the Gospel of Salvation proclaiming those who believe in His SON will have everlasting life. The Father Son and Holy Spirit are ONE in TRUTH and purpose. The Holy Spirit points to Jesus Christ as the FATHER DOES THE DRAWING. But check out Hebrews 6....one can be enlightened of Truth, and still reject. Being enlightened by the Holy Spirit is not being Indwelt with the Holy Spirit. The WORD OF GOD is living and powerful....


Do Unsaved Live Forever
  
Now it's easier to understand Trav nonsense, seeing there was no AMERICA when scripture was written, nor is AMERICA in any prophecy in scripture.

Finally smoked this wolf out of his den.

I would say there were many who joined themselves to Israel, including Moses wife who was Ethiopian. So God is not racist. We know Joseph married an Egyptian, who I believe is classified as NON WHITE as well.

I wonder if David is also racist, or how he feels about this new development.

But David and Trav would be BBF with the Devil if the Devil objected to Strongaxe and me.....hummmmmmm


Who Are The Children Of Promise
  
Romans 10:21 But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.


Acts 7:51....ye stiffed necked and uncircumcised in the heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Spirit, as your father's did so do ye.

Both these verses are addressing GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE ISRAEL.

It looks to me they rejected THE CALL.

SO who do you believe, Trav and David...OR GOD?

It's not Trav and David vs Strongaxe and kathr....as these trolls keep saying.

They both reject scripture not us.


Who Are The Children Of Promise
  
There's a vast difference between Trav doctrine and Davids, David refusing to address. Trav doctrine has God choosing Israel regardless of obedience of faith or faith in Jesus. David insists God only chooses sinless folks, and it's to non Jews/Israel as well. Trav doesn't curse David over this but he does others who state salvation is open to all. How these two don't insult one another is beyond me.

Both will answer back with insults to avoid answering this obviously glaring contradiction. Why, because as long as they have in common(( the only thing in common... bashing me and Strongaxe, )) they think that's ok with God. That in itself shows both here are TROLLS trafficking in the gospel so they can glory in your flesh.


Do Unsaved Live Forever
  
There is no evidence Strongaxe. Trav huffing and puffing is all hot air. He has no clue what he's talking about. He thinks if he posts this scripture or that, that is an answer. Half his posted scripture have nothing to do with the question. It's called DOUBLE TALK. He's not even good at it.

Trav is nothing more than a HACK, who openly admitted on another thread that Armstrongs racism was ok and then posts more scripture about Israell as if that PROVES WHITE EVANGELICAL NATIONALISM SUPREMACY in the USA is absolutely scriptural, I guess because Trav is promoting racism as well falsely using what was exclusively to that nation as now to the USA. Herein is the problem with this GOSPEL OF AMERICA...it's straight from hell.


Who Are The Children Of Promise
  
David claims having the Holy Spirit is not our Born Again Spirit. Well THIS IS THE SPIRIT GOD GAVE ME . Maybe David was given another spirit, I don't know, but the Spirit God gave me is described below. And this is how GOD'S SPIRIT works in me.

Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.


What Is The Gospel
  
I've never seen a direct answer to any questions asked of Trav. Asking WHY he excludes scripture that Israel/ Jews /Nth House must first believe in Jesus as shown in John 8 renders a sarcastic response evading the question altogether, with cursing, saying Woman also have no authority to ask questions, answering with scripture so inappropriate to the conversation, as a smoke screen because Trav doesn't have the answer. And the false accusations to create more smoke...so lame. Posting scripture anyone can do. Knowing and understanding what you're posting ....THAT TAKES THE HOLY SPIRIT'S DIRECTION.


Do Unsaved Live Forever
  
Acts 2: 5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

In the gospels we also have Anna the prophetess of the tribe of Asher. Luke 2:36-38 who prophesied about Jesus at the Temple of Jerusalem.

James wrote to all 12 Tribes.

The other tribes did not become lost and become another nation. Jesus talks about the LOST SHEEP, not lost tribes. Saying the lost sheep are only those not Judah, Benjamin and Levi is a HUGE LEAP OF TWISTING SCRIPTURE. And many returned after the captivity ...as obviously did ANNA and her family.


Who Are The Children Of Promise
  
Salvation is to all who put their faith in Jesus Christ.

Also note David it's OBEDIENCE OF FAITH. ROMANS 16:24-27, not obedience to the law. Faith is not of WORKS. Ephesians 2:8-9.

But faith without obedience/works is dead... So just obedience/works alone is also dead. Just read HEB 4 those who lacked faith.

You just don't give up David. You simply do not believe the scriptures. Your PRIDE wants to boast in its own salvation ROBBING GOD AND JESUS CHRIST of their SAVING GRACE.

God is not choosing those who are sinless. Paul was chosen while he was a murderer. SO no scripture supports your nonsense. David, were you in Special Ed at school? Or did you take over to the class telling everyone YOU can do it better?


What Is The Gospel
  
oh my goodness, lookee lookee lookee...He was a racist. Ok it's all coming together here.

"God originally set the bounds of national borders, intending nations to be separated to prevent interracial marriage. [...] Noah was of perfect lineage in his generations. His wife and three sons were of that same white strain."

Mystery of the Ages, H.W. Armstrong, pg. 149


That's just one excerpt. This guy wrote volumes showing off his racism. He would fit right in with the WHITE EVANGELICAL NATIONALISM .


Who Are The Children Of Promise
  
This is the way God wants it done. THIS IS WHAT I OBEY.

1) Romans 8:11-14. It's only through the Spirit that MORTIFIES ( aka puts to death) the deeds of the body re flesh...2) ....ALWAYS BEARING ABOUT IN OUR BODY THE DYING OF CHRIST THAT THE LIFE OF CHRIST IS MANIFEST IN US. 2 Corinthians 4:10

3) Philippians 3...4) Colossians 2-3....

And try again 5) 1st Peter 4....."those who have suffered in the flesh have ceased from sin that we live the rest of our lives to the will of God"

ALL THESE VERSES are witnesses to this same truth to those IN CHRIST.

Don't knock it until you've tried it. And if you knock it you are calling God a liar. I'm testifying to the truth. STOP CALLING GOD A LIAR


What Is The Gospel
  
I think Mal 2:17 can easily be addressed to this new WHITE EVANGELICAL NATIONALISM.

Country before God
Flag replaces the cross
Gods chosen people are WHITE


I do believe THIS IS what Trump and his supporters represents.

I find it hilarious Trav supports this bogus doctrine AND his Armstrongism....unless he somehow connects the two as one and the same.

Or I'd say Trav IS A DOUBLE MINDED MAN UNSTABLE IN ALL HIS WAYS. James 1:8. Back at ya Trav.

America is NOT The new Israel or NEW Promise land. Jerusalem is not here, and at Jesus second coming The Lord will NOT be setting up His earthly throne in Washington DC or NY or SALT LAKE CITY UT.



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