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Living In The End Times
Just wondering why America and what goes on here is the determinating factor of when God decides its time for His return. Matthew 24-25, Zechariah 12-14 has nothing to do with America.

Interesting some folks think everything revolves around America. I hate to disappoint, but there was no mention of AMERICA when Revelation was written. America or even a hint of an America is nowhere in scripture. Also there are no prophetic scriptures that God canceled His promises to the Nation of Israel and gave it to a Gentile nation( AMERICA).

The gospel of AMERICA is a false Gospel. Christians all around the world are not told to LOOK TO AMERICA FOR SIGNS OF END TIMES PROPHECY.

Living In The End Times
According to Trav, Jesus was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Trav definition of the Lost sheep of the house of Israel are only certain tribes of Israel, seeing he believes in the two house theory. Trav also believes the house of Israel are Gentiles.

This is problematic, seeing Jesus said DO NOT GO TO THE GENTILES, but only to the lost sheep of the House of Israel. Now what about the other HOUSE. Trav says Judah, Benjamin etc are NOT the House of Israel, but the House of Judah.

And do we see Jesus asking for identification as to what tribe any belong to first before seeking them out? No Judah, Levite or Benjamin were sought out?

Keep The Sabbath Holy
I try to keep every day Holy, not just one. Understanding Hebrews 3-4, I've "entered in" God's rest, where everyday is Holy.

If I obeyed the OT resting on a day, re, then the 7th, from sundown to sundown, with ALL that was instructed to obey , including being stoned to death for disobeying the sabbath LAW, and laws that accompanied, I think we see not even sabbath kerpers actually keep and obey the sabbath. Nor do we see any NT stonnings for not keeping the OT SABBATH. and I don't see any NEW RULES for A NT SABBATH except we now ENTER INTO HIS REST taking on a whole new meaning. The OT was an outward show, NT REST is to enter into HIS DEATH AND RESURRECTION LIFE...I AM CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST, NO LONGER I BUT CHRIST IN ME.

Living In The End Times
Even if one believes the Bible was written by Jews/ Israel, not all things written are exclusively about Israel. Take Nineveh for example. This shows God's grace and kindness towards HEATHANS who were not Jews or Israel.

And what's interesting, Jesus makes a comment that one day Nineveh will rise up and condemn Israel...Matthew 12:41.

Nineveh repented. Those not even Jews or Israel repented.

So why was Jonah sent to the heathen in the OT?

Because Israel was to be a LIGHT TO ALL NATIONS OF THIS WORLD.

Pentecostal Church Our Model
I guess if all they watched is Christian Satellite channels.???No they are not my model.

Curious why someone would think they are our model today? Who is "OUR"? "Our" as in America? The Gospel of the heavenly LOTTO? That may be the gospel of apostate America, but not true Christ centered, cross centered Christians. They have the OPPOSITE MESSAGE of Christianity. But maybe with so many false politicians who have no shame in lying, it runs hand in hand with false churches. Listen, if we can't discern truth from lies in our politicians, why would these same folks be able to discern truth from lies from the pulpit?

The anti_Christ will be the biggest liar of all and MULTITUDES will believe and follow.

Forgive As God Forgives
Just as God IN CHRIST forgave you.

There is a lesson in one of the Gospels where someone owing a debt was forgiven, ( I'm just recalling from memory) but then when the shoe was on the other foot, this same person who was forgiven refused to forgive another.

It might be worth revisiting that verse and it's consequences.

Those who know what it's like having God's forgiveness, something NONE OF US DESERVE, should never hold unforgivness towards another we think they don't deserve.

Living In The End Times
Imposters reveal themselves by their distaste for any mention of Israel or sheep. Thank GOD for his confirming words of for ever and everlasting. ////

This is a total lie. I dont know anyone who has a distaste for scripture referring to Israel. But there are certain cults who continually show a distaste for any scripture referring to Gentile, Greek, Heathen , much like the Mormons use these terms as a derogatory insult towards those who are not Mormon, seeing they too consider themselves Israel.

God has concluded ALL under sin, and ALL need to repent regardless of your DNA.

And once you have repented and are saved you are no longer a Jew or Israel or Gentile, bond or free, male or female, but A NEW CREATURE IN CHRIST.

Confessing Our Sins
Strongaxe, exactly. An unwanted pregnancy out of wedlock would be sin in God's eyes. The pregnancy doesn't disappear when we ask for forgiveness. We still suffer the consequences for our actions.

If we lie this is sin. We need to confess and ask God for forgiveness. We also need to go to the person we lied to to ask forgiveness. We don't need to then go to a Catholic priest asking again for forgiveness. We don't need to stand up and confess in front of the whole church. I believe James 5:16... TO GO TO ONE ANOTHER, is not group confession. If I go to you and you to me, if there was a problem, that is to one another. That verse shows no group confession or a church setting. Man has read too much into that verse.

Confessing Our Sins
So Ruben, are you saying Jesus was only a man?

You never answered my question. Let me ask this way. When you sin, do you go straight to God and ask forgiveness, or do you run to a man and get forgiveness?

Now I've asked friends to forgive me if I've hurt or offended them, BUT I also seek God's forgiveness first. And if my friend won't forgive, I still have God's forgiveness. I may have lost a friend, but I can never lose my relationship with God.

Perhaps the RCC doesn't understand what having a personal relationship with the Lord is about????

Confessing Our Sins
Ruben, question..Let's say someone horribly murdered the child next door. And let's say the man asked God for forgiveness,and received it, but the neighbor refused yo forgive. Is the man's sin forgiven or not?

Jesus does say we are to forgive one another. And I believe this is what Paul is referencing on 2 Corinthians 2:10. I do not believe Paul is teaching Church Doctrine on forgiveness of sin. I believe he's teaching personal forgiveness of another and Paul says if they are forgiving this issue, then he is too, so all are in unity.

When we just use one verse wonders , we can create any church doctrine we want. I dont do that or believe that way.

Confessing Our Sins
Ruben, as I've said before, picking a verse here and there out of context and not applying THE WHOLE WORD OF GOD, is dangerous. Men cannot forgive sin. Only God can, and it's based solely on the sacrifice of His Son. Without personal faith in Jesus death and resurrection for the forgiveness of sin, there is no forgiveness of sin man can do to go around that.

I believe those verses mean we, spirit filled Christians who are forgiven have authority to preach the Gospel to the lost so that they too can find forgiveness from God through Jesus Christ. THIS IS THE MINISTRY OF RECONCILISTION.

Ruben, for your own sake, I pray you have found forgiveness from God, not man.

Confessing Our Sins
Bill, absolutely. And knowing we are the Body of Christ, we all are working together for good within the body of Christ. All our gifts are to also minister to one another. This is the only way it makes sense to me.

Great question. I think the healing then is a healing within the whole body of Christ,and a healing of the whole body of Christ, those IN CHRIST. There's another verse that says if one suffer we ALL suffer.

Living In The End Times
michael_e, I really appreciate your post here. I hear so many who believe in the rapture but hope it comes today. I keep praying not today Lord because there are so many lost who needs to hear.

And yes, separating the Church from the promises to the Nation of Israel is so important to understand.

Confessing Our Sins
Ruben, yes, Jesus died and shed HIS BLOOD for the sin of the whole world. He takes away the first to establishbthe second. The priesthood under the OT has been done away Ruben. Also their sacrifice of the blood of bulls and goats is obsolete. Read Hebrews 10 ..the entire chapter. Those who have rejected the FINAL SACRIFICE which is Jesus Himself, are in line for God's vengeance.

We confess our sin to God through Jesus Christ. We can now come BOLDLY TO GOD ...Jesus opened the way...the veil has been taken away. We can now come to the Father THROUGH HIS SON.

Confessing Our Sins
Bill, if this is something that has worked for you, PRAISE God. I know Paul said he would not preach anything except it was wrought in him first. So, I think I would love to hear personal testimony on this one.

I know there are churches who believe in tithing and use OT scripture of tithing and blessings. And before the offering have people give their personal testimony how God blessed them with all this and that because they simply tithed. Yet not all who tithe have windows of heaven open for the lotto to fall out of. Why? What may be interesting is maybe God would have blessed them anyway having nothing to do with tithing.

I believe we can all come BOLDLY WITH CONFIDENCE to the Throne of GRACE to find help in time of need.

Living In The End Times
Unfortunately many read the Bible like it's a "Confucius says" encyclopedia. One hit wonders. Yet scripture was not written this way or was it originally in chapter and verse form, where folks do read it like " Confucius says".

I dont think its worth the time arguing with those who ARE really not grounded in Scripture..ALL OF IT.

Many love their pet verses and never grow beyond that. If many are still satisfied with 1+1=2, and think they know it all...just smile and walk away.

What Is Clamor
Yes, Trav and let's not forget Acts 28...the whole chapter, where the Jews rejected the Gospel Paul preached and then Paul went to the Greek AKA Gentiles stating they would hear and believe.

Trav underestimates folks who can read....not just one verse he thinks he can twist so the uneducated might believe Trav, but that Christians, unlike Trav read whole chapters and whole books of the Bible and know when those who pluck out a verse here and there out of context are not real teachers but HIRLINGS much like Balaam. They are clueless...however even Balaam knew better. Shame on you Trav. Balaam knew better than to curse anyone. Trav however is worse than Balaam.

Confessing Our Sins
Bill. I totally agree that our human faults and shortcomings do lean in to our sin nature AKA our flesh. But I personally believe if we walk in the spirit we won't give way to the flesh. I also believe for Christians the Holy Spirit convicts of sin. And I believe CHRIST IN YOU is Changing us from GLORY to Glory, if we obey Roman's 8:11-13 and GAL 5:22-25.

With that. We must first be walking in James 1, where the testing of our faith brings these shortcomings to light as Peter also testifies to, tried by fire that we are brought forth as GOLD has to be taking place first before we lean in to verses skipping over this part. If our obedience to the Cross Romans 6, is skipped over, James 5:16 won't work.

What Is Clamor
Clamor clamor clamor....

Poor Trav has been affected by being a Covid shut-in and is angry .

Unfortunately his return back on CN after years of absence shows how some have been having mental issues.

Let's all pray for Trav . Slander is sin he cannot see or grasp. Is it evil or mental illness? Either way, let's pray for Trav.


Confessing Our Sins
Trav, your ignorance is showing. No one here is seducing anyone to worship false gods and idols except maybe the RCC.

No one here is seducing anyone to fornicate with false teachers and eat meat sacrificed to idols but YOU TRAV, by siding with the RCC.

and your doctrine is opposed to RCC doctrine also. Did you think they think they are Jews/Israel? They don't silly.


Trav, your condescending shade really shows you're a false teacher having no clue what scripture is about.

You have no idea what Jezebel was about. Forcing Israel to worship accuse me of? You're laughable. No one here takes you seriously.

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