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What Is The Trinity
Johnny5, "The Son was created & God was alone before;" Your idea of "The Son" being created before there was a Creation, is profound. Yet the scriptures you provide are in no way a proof of that idea. Why do you want to argue, that God was created before Creation? Man..

Hooked On ChristiaNet
There's something wrong with it. I can't put my finger on it. The exchange of view is sometimes helpful. I find it helps to promote a deeper understanding of subjects, but the time it takes, depending, can be detrimental to other things. Is it part of a group of distractions, or is it really profitable. If it's profitable, there can be a price, and if it's a distraction, there's a price for that too.

True Meaning Of Christmas
Bishop Cyril 4th century A.D. was that the council of Nicea? or was there another?

Unclean Spirit In You
The top positioned religious hypocrites and those who followed those hypocrites became responsible for killing Christ, Is religious addiction and slave like obedience a demon or a massive possession?

True Meaning Of Christmas
Eloy thank you for the explanation of measurement and observance, and the 5 b.c. what I don't get is the arrival to the Dec 25 again. Can you explain.

True Meaning Of Christmas
Eloy, I get the 483 years. Seven times seven plus sixty-two times seven comes to 483 years. Okey you're right on that, or I agree on that.

Would you know by chance the date or apporximate dates of the 40 year reign of Artexerses or what was the date of his seventh year in power. Working at it.

True Meaning Of Christmas
Although aligning solar time with lunar time is an adjustment, it may be Eloy that you could be correct on the Dec 24 although there may be some minor variation. I guess I'll have to look at the rest of the calculation. Does the extra month added every leap year or any postponements play a part in arriving on Dec 25 far in the future.

True Meaning Of Christmas
I agree with you on that Eloy that Abib or Nisan is the first month and it corresponds to our April with variation therein. So the ninth month with inclusive counting would be ....December. If we count our months to correspond. But they had only 10 months I understood and the 10th month the last month of the year would fall just before the first month, of which we agree is Abib in April. Is this calculation correct.

True Meaning Of Christmas
Eloy, you sure are quick to call people unbelievers. I guess when you're that smart it's hard to put up with us little nin-com-poops. Can you colaborate that the Hebrew 9th month in Haggai is December by our time today. I'm not sure the 9th month can jump to the 12th month quite that easily? Interested.

What Is Hell
Wouldn't hell be a place where the devil runs things, portrayed in Dante's Inferno.
2Co 4:4 "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."
Hell is cast into the lake of fire.

Re 20:14 And death AND HELL were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."
2Pe3:10,&12, The earth, the heavens, the elements, burned up in fervent heat.

True Meaning Of Christmas
Obviously you have nothing left to say, but ridicule your own poorly founded, misrepresented, unbiblical, false argument.

True Meaning Of Christmas
Haggai 2: 18 "Consider now from this day and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month, even from the day that the foundation of the LORDS temple was laid, consider it." The 24th of the ninth month is not christmas eve. Although it is of interest that the 24th is used.

True Meaning Of Christmas
Eloy can you explain something. Verse 24 of Daniel 9 says; "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression,." Verse 25 which you refer then says; "shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks:" Sixty-nine weeks in vr. 25, and seventy in vr 24. I'm missing a week between 24 and 25. Do you have it.

True Meaning Of Christmas
Eloy: Your evidnece of correlation for birth and winter are not well founded. Using swaddling, tax records and a questionable Hebrew word that does not mean cold. Now you refer to a prophesy by Haggai to support the foundation of the temple as being Dec 24 as if was there. It is not there. What is there is a date yes, the twentieth day of the ninth month, not Dec 24. Ghastly.

Offended By Women Pastors
Alan. of course there is metaphor agreed. Is that a valid excuse or reason to not follow what is written in the books of first and second corinthians or any other book. That's my point. Metaphor is being used as a ploy to diminish the relevant applicable value of the bible in this case corinthians.

True Meaning Of Christmas
Eloy the custom of Dec 25 for christmas has not been around quite for 2000 years. And who cares how many years it is. If it's wrong it's wrong. If it's 10.000 years it can still be wrong. The World Book Encyclopedia states, "The first mention of December 25th as the birth date of jesus occurred in A.D.336 in an early Roman calendar."
That would be 2006 minus 336. What's that come to? 1,670 year old custom. So does an old kept custom make Dec 25 true or false? Historical violence.

Offended By Women Pastors
Well if John is right that we should not take the bible literally that it is full of metaphors, then we might as well continue with made up formats and ignore what was written since that was for the past. Made up stuff is much more popular anyway. Lazy man's religion. Why go inspired, just warm a seat and look intelligent. Furthermore if The books of corinthians are out-of-date and not to be used for consult and advice except when you want then there's no foundation.

Offended By Women Pastors
1 co 14: 37 "If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord."
Yes, "commandments...". The translators forgot disclaimer, "not to be taken literally." Doesn't this conveniently open the doors for all the made up stuff you want. Most people prefer it made up. Why follow non-applicable customs unrelevant to our day. Let's do it our way. Who wants to be old fashioned?

Witnesses Don't Believe Trinity
Leslie the egg has three parts but we usually in our house throw the shell away. The egg now with two usable parts, in our house anyway, came from two birds to co-create that egg and only one bird delivered the egg. And the egg comes out warm.

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