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Must Believe In The Trinity
Exzucuh, John 14:6-9 says: Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father?

Must Believe In The Trinity
Exzucuh, I do not deny the Father because I know Him just as this scripture states. I believe just as the scripture states that Jesus and the Father are One. Jesus was God manifest in flesh just as John states. On another subject we as Christians need to remember that these blogs should be used as a tool for growth. We should not use them to personally attack other Christians and their walk.

Doctrine Of The Trinity
1st cliff,
Wow, I dont think that I have ever heard someone try to explain away scripture like you just did in your response to David. So, if you didnt like Davids scriptures for Jesus being God manifest in flesh how about John 14 or John 1. Ill go on if you want me to.

Tongues, Knowledge And Shouting
I Corinthians 13:10 states But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. When Corinthians was written Our Savior had already gone to the cross and rose again. So this scripture is not referring to the first coming of Jesus but to His second coming. This scripture does not state that the gifts would cease after the apostles. It states that they will be done away with when Our Savior comes again.

Tongues, Knowledge And Shouting
The gifts of the spirit are for the New Testament church. We are that church. These gifts will cease when we are in His presence and are no longer in need of them to minister to one another.

Degree Needed To Preach
Part Two
My second question is for people struggling with the idea of education. Why do you have a problem with formalized education? I would suggest that you all search yourselves for the answer and make sure that your hostility does not come from feelings of inadequacy. I do not believe that a minister must have seminary education to pastor or preach but there is nothing wrong with him if he wants this training.

Must Believe In The Trinity
I feel as if I am coming into the middle of a discussion but I want to put in my two cents. You do not need to believe the Trinity to be saved. This is not stated anywhere in the Bible. The New Testament clearly states what a person must do to live a Christian life. We are taught to repent, be baptized and to receive the gift of the Sprit. We are taught to love our neighbors as ourselves. I do not see anywhere in the New Testament where we are taught that we must believe the Trinity to be saved.

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