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Christians Sell Cigarettes
Your Snarky answers David IS SIN. It reeks of a self-righteous attitude towards others. Judging others is sin, as we are told not to judge. You decide who is and isn't saved, SIN, because you exalt yourself above measure. All this arrogance and pride coming from you IS SIN. I have asked time and again for your apology on issues you falsely accused...never got one....Jesus says if you've offended another, you need to go to them and make it right. Your disobedience IS SIN. Your pride IS SIN.

You are a slave of sin David.

No scripture states we must accomplish sinless perfection before we can be saved. Jesus died for our sin. SIN IS FORGIVEN AND PUT AWAY IN CHRIST ALONE. A doctrine you deny.

Who Are The Masons

Now you stated the majority of Jews don't believe in Jesus. So how do you presume they are saved? Those up to today who have rejected Jesus Christ and have died have no second chances. It's appointed once to die and then the judgement.

By not telling the truth THE WHOLE TRUTH ! you are misleading Jews to believe they are saved today without having to believe in Jesus. That dictrine is Straight from hell. ONE DAY, AFTER GOD DEALS WITH ISRAELS DISOBEDIENCE Israel will be saved. But until then..,,you are leading multitudes to hell by your doctrine..

Jews Under The Old Covenant
OH my gosh, stating a fact as Paul did so clearly in Romans 10 is not being a Baalam. Talk about twisting scripture beyond words. Paul clearly shows in Romans 10 that Israel MISSED THE MARK...trying to establish their own righteousness but not according to Gods righteousness that is IN CHRIST ALONE. Something even David can't grasp.

You both reject Jesus Christ and the preaching of the Cross. It's obviously foolishness to you.....and God has something to say about those who find the preaching of the Cross foolishness. And you want to call those who preach the Cross Baalam? That's beyond evil.

Do Unsaved Live Forever
The ungodly shall stand in the final judgement as Rev clearly states and face A SECOND DEATH.

God judged Adam and Eve when they sinned, however God also covered them, ( animal skins ) representing the same covering SEE HEBREWS 10, until Jesus death and resurrection which did more than just cover year after year. Adam and Eve's faith in the promised redeemer saved them just as we who put our faith in Jesus Christ are SAVED TODAY.

Those ASLEEP IN THE LORD 1 Cor 15....

Rev 20:10 clearly say forever and forever. Hell was originally created for the fallen angels BEFORE TIME, BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD and is not subject to earths time clock.

Who Are The Masons
Trav, nothing you post troubles me. Your insulting comments of scripture I post concerning Israel trouble you... I only see you troubled. And you gaslight, FALSELY ACCUSINGLY, making false accusations to have an advantage over another, to slander another for your advantage IS GASLIGHTING. And Trav, those who know and understand the purpose of Gaslighting don't question their sanity. I do question your motives to disgard ALL SCRIPTURE concerning Israel.

You said they don't believe in Jesus, but you fail to acknowledge the consequences for their rejecting Jesus. 1/2 the truth is not the WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. It's how CULTS operate. They throw in a little truth, and then reject the WHOLE TRUTH.

Christians Sell Cigarettes
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance, seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

7 ?.....8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing, whose end is to be burned.

9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.


Do Unsaved Live Forever
Jerry are you saying Revelation is not God's word?

Like I said DEAD DEATH ETC has different nuances in scripture.

I'll take God's word too.

Christians Sell Cigarettes
Actually David that is exactly what scripture states in Cornelius testimony, or rather Peters testimony concerning Cornelius. REPENTANCE unto life is salvation. You might want to read Peters recap of that experience in Acts 11 . But focus on Peters words SAVED ACTS 11:14 AND REITERATED AGAIN VS 18.


So David, your snarky answer was unnecessary.

Do Unsaved Live Forever
Roman's 7: 24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.

That's why in Romans 8 it states those who walk now in the spirit don't give way to the flesh.

Romans 7 is reiterating Romans 6..... Jesus Christ has delivered us from the body of this death by our identification with Him in death and resurrection life....I AM CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST. YET that experience, David denies over and over...yet claims to have this same experience in Romans 7, promoting sinless perfection, which says no such thing. Or claims to have THIS EXPERIENCE without first being born again.

Do Unsaved Live Forever
Revelation 20: 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, .....

10 ...... and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God, and the books were opened:and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books,...

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: ...

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Who Are The Masons
Someone is Gaslighting here. Actually, all Trav does is gaslight, trying to create drama when there is none, making false insulting accusations in hopes to get something going. It's not working.

I post directly out of scripture too concerning Israel ....the very same scriptures Trav posts from. But to say God has only saved Jews throughout the last 2000 years and no Gentiles, or to twist and say they are Jews is rediculous. Multitudes can attest they are not Israel or Jews and ARE SAVED. And for Trav to make some sort of judgement they are either not saved or are Jews is AGAIN REDICULOUS.

The only one who is infuriated here is Trav, because he cannot support his doctrine. Scripture itself does not support it.

Christians Sell Cigarettes
You'll never know the damage done to those told .." If you don't speak in tongues you are not saved". Another EXPERIENCE damaging scenario. Oh, they say...THATS PROOF YOU HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT. Yet Paul clearly states not all speak in tongues....but they don't want to see that.

This is what John teaches ..the order of our growth and maturity
1) Children know their sins are forgiven
2) young men have OVERCOME THE EVIL ONE
3) Fathers because you have known Him that is from the beginning.

Here's a list of experiences that tell you if you are on track. Those obsessed with SIN will never mature and be OVERCOMERS..***Hebrews 6:1***We don't overcome sin, we overcome SATAN. (A WHOLE NEW BALLGAME.
1 John 2:13-29

How To Love
Most Jews dont believe in Jesus either....---Trav on 6/5/21

Israel will ALWAYS be God's chosen people. The CHURCH is not earthly Israel. We have no promise Land to RETURN TO. Heaven is our home...right now. We don't look for land, we are looking for Jesus Christ. Earthly Israel is looking for the Messiah, who came already and they rejected Him. One day at Jesus 2nd coming THEY will look upon Him WHO THEY HAVE PIERCED AND MOURN because they will realize then THEY CRUCIFIED THE MESSIAH.

However individual Jews down through out the ages do believe in Jesus will be saved from the WRATH TO COME... AKA THE TIME OF JACOBS TROUBLE that spoken of in Daniel AS Jesus clearly stated in Matthew 24-25. Trav is not telling THE WHOLE TRUTH.

Christians Sell Cigarettes
God exercises us to be able to discern good and evil. Those exercised are able to eat strong meat and get off the baby bottle. Many of these exercises are teaching us to distinguish between the Holy Spirit and Satan working through our emotions. Satan does and can imitate the Fruit of the Spirit and changes himself into an angel of light and preacher of righteousness. Satan works through our emotions, God works through the NEW MAN. The NEW MAN IN CHRIST has been born again. So if one says they have the HS but are not born again, it's NOT THE SPIRIT OF GOD. The testing of our faith is where these exercises begin. And through them we GROW UP INTO HIM INTO THE FULLNESS AND STATUTE OF CHRIST. That can't be done if you're not Born Again first.

How To Love
The MYSTERY is CHRIST IN YOU THE HOPE OF GLORY, Colossians 1:24-27, .....which the majority of Jews/Israel/NthHouse have rejected Jesus. kathr4453///

Trav stated on the Mason blog Jews don't believe in Jesus. When quoting someone EVEN GOD, it's important to show the WHOLE QUOTE not just part of it.

Christ cannot be IN ANYONE who doesn't believe in Him. So you can't force a square peg in a round hole no matter how hard you try.

ONE DAY, DURING THE GREAT TRIBULATION ..MATTHEW 24-25, God will deal with UNBELIEVING ISRAEL, and only 1/3 will be alive to enter into the earthly kingdom reign. 2/3 will die, in their sin, just like those who DID NOT ENTER THE PROMISE LAND. Even Paul warns about the days of provocation.....

Jews Under The Old Covenant
There is no such thing as Israel's scriptures. There is ONLY THE WORD OF GOD. And I'm not against but 100% FOR put in their proper place. TODAY INDIVIDUAL JEWS AND GENTILES ARE BEING SAVED, becoming THE BODY OF CHRIST. The Jews here died to the Law to be married to another...JESUS CHRIST. Roman's 7. So THESE JEWS are members of the CHURCH of which Jesus is head...,

However Israel THE NATION, is another entity, belonging to God the Father, having different promises. Their time will come when the fullness of the Gentiles have come in. THEN , MEANING AFTER...Israel will be saved. Israel means the nation, not individual Jews.

Who Are The Masons
Trav, I didn't ask you to deflect and ramble on with your babble. I asked a question. Either answer it honestly or don't post.

You are not Israel/ Jew/ or Nth House. So who asked you, an outsider gentile to proclaimed what you do. Gods prophets are Jews Trav....and your not one of them. You can't gain brownie points with God by posting verses. Anyone can do that and still be as lost as list can be.

How To Love
Genesis to Revelation is ABOUT JESUS CHRIST. Genesis 10, after the flood, God divided Noah's sons into different NATIONS. These NATIONS were in existance before Israel. Genesis 12 God promises Abraham, He will make of him a great NATION....SINGULAR. Israel in scripture is always referred to as the NATION of Israel, not NATIONS of Israel.

ALSO, God told Abraham he would be the father of MANY NATIONS. ALL FAMILIES OF THE EARTH. But this is not referring to genetic offspring, but spiritual. Roman's 4:16, Galatians 3:29. If you are CHRISTS, you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to promise. You must believe in Jesus Christ to be Christ's***** and Abrahams Spiritual seed. MATTHEW 3:9, LUKE 3:8, LUKE 13:28 ,JOHN 8:39 , 8:56-57*****

Christians Sell Cigarettes
Water baptism can't save a flea. REPENT FIRST, and then be baptized. But What made you think you were "born again" 6 months after you repented and received the Holy Spirit? We always need the word to back up these things. I know people have different experiences and insist others must have THEIR EXACT EXPERIENCE or they are not saved. Re being slain in the spirit.....WRONG! So dangerous.

My experience was different. After I was saved, the Lord called me by my name and said..."I want your whole life". I said YES. It was THEN spiritual warfare began, and OH WHAT an experience I had. I don't measure others by my experience. But I will say, it is scripturally backed up in James Chapter 1.

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