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Was 2020 Election Stolen
  
Trav:

I have not taught law. However, outlandish claims, i.e. that "divorced Israel" have accepted Christ, demand proof. You also claim some people have "the law of God in their hearts". The Bible says these will eventually happen. What IS in dispute is your claim they already happened.

I showned this cannot have happened yet, as people who HAVE the law in their hearts no longer need teachers to teach it to them - yet there is no group alive today that is Christian by nature without having teachers.

What do jurors have to do with anything?


Was 2020 Election Stolen
  
Trav:

You wrote: So he came to his own Judah, they received him not.... but, divorced Israel has.

Really? When and where did that happen? What evidence do you have of this? If you're referring to the British Israel theory, that pseudo-scientific belief has been refuted by archaeological, ethnological, genetic, cultural, and linguistic research.

Also, what people have "the law in their hearts"? Be specific. Remember, people who have the law written on their hearts have no need for anyone to teach them the law.


Was 2020 Election Stolen
  
jerry6593:

Courts refused testimony that was not "evidence". Direct testimony requires witnessing, e.g. "I saw them altering ballots". Opinion and hearsay are not, e.g. "I saw them unloading boxes that I assume were ballots", or "Marge said she saw someone altering ballots", or "Sue has a friend who said she saw someone altering ballots". ALL evidence presented was of this inadmissable type.

The Bible requires "two or three witnesses". Hearsay is not admissible, and is called gossip, and universally condemned.

Many judges who threw cases out were Republicans, and quite a few were Trump appointees.

Confirmed? Prove it. Show EXACTLY where and by whom.


Facial Church Attendance
  
Trav:

People have cakes at weddings, regardless of religious beliefs.

Bible gives US rules to live by. It NEVER gives us authority to impose those rules on others.

Jesus said don't judge. When providing services to others, I don't do personality checks because it's my job to provide that service, NOT be Religious Correctness Police. Matthew 25 isn't "I was hungry, but you wouldn't feed me because I was the wrong kind of person". Jews shunned Samaritans. That was wrong.

Matthew 26:52: Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

If you support war, capital punishment, proliferation of weapons, etc. you aren't pro life.


Was 2020 Election Stolen
  
Trav:

Things are true or false, regardless of who says them.

In Canada and other developed countries, everybody gets health care. Nobody is denied because they can't pay. Nobody is bankrupted by high hospital bills. EXCEPT here. Millions are uninsured. So how is here "better?". Even universal health care opponent Rand Paul went to "socialist" Canada for treatment.

I keep giving you truths, but you ignore them, accuse me of lies, but never prove they're lies. Name ONE and prove it's a lie.

What "things I've avoided talking about"? You want a direct answer, ask a direct question. As to my or kathr's personal lives, those are none of your business. You haven't shared yours either.


Facial Church Attendance
  
Trav:

Replying to "what", exactly? If you want a direct answer, ask a direct question.

Read my comments on these blogs. I never once "defended" LGBTQ. I never once "defended" abortion.

What I *HAVE* talked about is the hypocrisy of Christians who get majorly enraged about things Jesus never talked about, while ignoring things he DID talk about. Choking on gnats while swallowing camels.

Refuse to bake cakes for LGBTQ weddings? Fine. But if you also bake cakes for atheists, or re-married divorced couples, that's hypocrisy.

Pro-life and picket abortions? Fine. But if you also are pro-war, pro-gun, and anti-health care, that's hypocrisy.


Was 2020 Election Stolen
  
Trav:

You keep accusing Biden of being a socialist. What is your evidence for that? People who are ACTUAL socialists hate Biden, because he's far to the right of their position.

What "un-christian" platforms? Be specific.

I have repeatedly shown that progressive counties like Denmark have the lowest abortion rates in the world - much lower than U.S., by addressing the cause (unwanted pregnancies) rather than the symptom (abortion), and people who REALLY want to reduce "baby-killing" would do a better job of it by following such countries' examples - yet you have never once replied to this. Why not?

How about "conservative lies"? Where is EVIDENCE election was stolen?


Was Eve Called Adam
  
Trav:

It's good you brought up 2 Th 2:11. Many people throw that around, assuming it applies to others, totally oblivious that it might apply to them. One danger of thinking one is right and everyone else is a heretic, is heretics believe exactly the same thing. Cults are the first to scream and point fingers at everybody else and say they're all wrong. They are unwilling to accept the possibility they might not possess 100% of the truth. As Paul said, we see through a glass darkly - until we shall see the Truth face to face. Whenever they are caught in error, they hide it and insist they never made it. The truth is not in them, even though they think it is. They are under strong delusion, as in 2 Th 2:11.


Was 2020 Election Stolen
  
Trav:

I'm not talking about "swaying an election". I'm just talking about truth. If truth can sway an election, it ought to be swayed.

Just recently, Arizona Republicans were before a judge, trying to justify their new proposed restrictive voting laws, because those laws don't do anything to make elections safer. They actually said they NEED those laws, because without them, they wouldn't be able to compete against Democrats.

Let that sink in. They're saying "We can't win without changing the rules". If you're playing a game and you can't win fairly without changing the rules of the game (i.e. cheating), maybe you should rethink your strategy.


British The Tribe Of Ephraim
  
Trav:

Yes, there have always been individuals throughoug time who have God's law written on their hearts, but those have always been in the minority. There has never been an ENTIRE PEOPLE like that, at any time in human history so far. That is prophesied to happen during the Millennium.

Isa 49:3: Israel, in whom I will be glorified.

I.e. At some time in the future, not now.


Was 2020 Election Stolen
  
jerry6593:

I follow the same math as EVERY single court in this country that ruled on the subject. Many of those judges were Republicans, and quite a few were Trump appointees.

What "stolen votes from Trump and lots of dead people and fake ballots", exactly? Be specific.

There is ZERO evidence of that, even after dozens of recounts and audits. Republicans had TWO MONTHS before Congress tallied electoral votes to present evidence. Why didn't they? They had THREE MORE MONTHS since then. Still nothing. It's all lies, propaganda and tale-bearing with no witnesses - which the Bible condemns.

Yes, there WAS a small amount of election fraud found and prosecuted. In EVERY SINGLE CASE, done by Republicans.


British The Tribe Of Ephraim
  
kathr4453:

125 word limit requires abbreviating quotations.


Trav:

Who am I judging? Also, your own quote proves my point.
Rev 5:9: ... out of every ...

Once we are in Christ, we are taken out of all of those things. we are no longer defined by our ancestry, nationality, culture, etc. These are all things we put behind us.

And, yes, God WILL regather Israel, and write his law on thier hearts. This will presumably happen during the Millenium. It is has certainly not happened yet, because Israel is STILL scattered among the nations, and God's Law is not written on ANY group's hearts yet, Israel or otherwise. If that were true, those people would not need teachers, which has not happened yet.


British The Tribe Of Ephraim
  
Trav:

I quote KJV. If you have an issue with that, please take it up with 400 years of Christian scholars and translators. Everybody here makes spelling errors, even you. No need to get snide about it.

I said "Under the NEW COVENANT", physical ancestry is irrelevant. I was talking about the New Covenant in Christ, which is active today. "In Christ, there is no Jew or Greek, bond or free, male or female", as I have quoted several times, but you keep ignoring.

Yes, Heb. 8 mentions "A" new covenant with Israel, but that clearly hasn't happened yet, because there is no group (Jewish or otherwise) that has God's Law written on their hearts and without any need for teachers (also as I said earlier).


British The Tribe Of Ephraim
  
Trav:

You quoted: I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts...

Yes, that is all well and fine, but given the state of the world, and everyone in it, this hasn't happened yet. The above phrase does not describe any people on earth today. There is no group of people who intuitively know God's law without having to be taught, and who obey it unquestioningly without being coerced. Even Christians require teachers, and discipline procedures. Furthermore, many so-called Christian teachers lead their flocks astray, and the flocks sheepishly follow them, none the wiser. This was warned about in the New Testament, and happened even then, and that has not changed.


British The Tribe Of Ephraim
  
Trav:

Exactly. The Lost Tribes were SCATTERED among nations. They didn't arrive in a lump to create the most powerful nations in the world. Today, there are Jewish communities everywhere, but they are the majority nowhere - except Israel, where they deliberately re-gathered.

This also is Old Convenant. Under the New Covenant, physical ancestry is irrelevant:

Galatians 3:28: There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Saying one person is "more worthy" due to DNA is to ignore NT and fall back on the old. This is also why white supremacy is so ridiculous and anti-Christian.


British The Tribe Of Ephraim
  
kathr4453:

You wrote: So in reality Scripture uses both interchangeably. Trav's doctrine does not .

Exactly. The Jews themselves do not make this distinction - they all consider themselves to be Jews, regardless of which tribe they originally came from. It's silly that some people choke on this gnat, believing they know who is a Jew and who isn't better than they themselves do.

(And no, I don't want to get into the whole "Spiritual Israel" argument here, which is not based on actual genetic descent - because this blog topic is literally about physical descent from Israel.)


Baptism Gone Wrong
  
Anonymous:

In English, "You nailed it" means "You did something really well", in the same sense as hitting a nail square in the head with a hammer.

Where did you get the idea that this phrase was related to crucifixion? I have never heard such an explanation before, and I can't find any references to such a usage anywhere.


Jesse:

Wearing only a crown of thorns, while technically not actually being naked, is nevertheless not in any way less immodest (in the sense of being shamed by it) than actually being fully naked.


Was Eve Called Adam
  
Trav:

You wrote: More noteworthy is when prophets and Christs posted red letter scripture makes your spirit fearful.

So, for the second time, which "Christs"? I'm only aware of one.

And, for the second time, which "prophets" posted "red letter scripture"? You cited Deutronomy, 2 Samuel, and Isaiah in answer to this question, but I'm not aware of any Bible versions where any of these are written in red. Some versions of the New Testament, yes, but not Old Testament.

I'm "not aware" of those "truths" because they don't exist. You make assertions without backing.


Was Eve Called Adam
  
Trav:

Which prophets and "Christs" would those be, exactly? There is only one Christ, and his words are in red letters in some bibles, for convenience, although that is a very recent editorial device, and was never part of original scriptures. Old testament prophets words aren't in red, because Christ was not then to quote.

Who here "doesn't honor or use explicit scripture"? E.g. Both kathr and I quote "explicit scripture" all the time.



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