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Fail To Tell The Truth
David, I've shown you Hebrews 11, again all are shown to have FAITH, and the words " justification by the law" is not once mentioned. I've also shown you Galatians, Paul explaining over and over after the Lawyers came in, that NO ONE IS JUSTIFIED BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW. Again Roman's 4-5, 1st and 2nd Timothy, Titus , Ephesians all reiterate FAITH. Faith has ALWAYS BEEN the only thing acceptable to God...starting with Hebrews 11 show. Hebrews 10 A NEW AND LIVING WAY THROUGH THE VAIL, THAT IS TO SAY HIS FLESH...AKA I AM CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST IS BY FAITH ONLY

I will NEVER change my FAITH , not for one NY minute. Just accept it and move on. I know scripture says " not all nen have faith".

Fail To Tell The Truth
David, James in his examples of the WORKS OF FAITH show works of faith , not works of the Law. Rahab not knowing the Law exhibited FAITH ..she didn't even exhibit works of the law as in your Romans 2 verse. .. Abraham when offering Isaac exhibited works of faith. No LAW, ANY LAW within or without asks you to lie or kill your children.

And you keep taking Romans 2 out of context because you fail to keep reading the conclusion of what Paul is saying.... I don't follow "one verse wonders" and create a whole doctrine out of one verse like you do. And I don't throw out ALL scripture like you do that doesn't support ONE VERSE. If a cake recipe calls for 10 ingredients and you stop at the first one... THERE IS NO CAKE.

Fail To Tell The Truth
David, this is the Salvation I'm talking about, also reiterated in Ephesians more than once....NOT OF WORKS lest any man should boast. The very same faith Abraham had, as Paul AGAIN reiterates in Romans 4....NOT OF WORKS. ALSO, SAVED doesn't always mean Eternal life. No one is given eternal life in childbearing either. Also See Jude 1:5

2 Timothy 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost.

Who Is A Widow
Israel, all tribes whether scattered or not have ALWAYS been GOD'S People, so Roman's 9:25 is not talking about any of the tribes of Israel, but THE HEATHANS, GREEKS, ITES, BARBARIANS....those who were never called MY PEOPLE ....MY PEOPLE in the OT refer exclusively to ISRAEL THE NATION...ALL TRIBES.

The verse IF MY PEOPLE humble themselves and turn from their wicked addressed to WICKED DISOBEDIENT ISRAEL...ALL 12 tribes.

Also Trav keep this in mind. Jude 1,5.
And so it will be during and after the Great Trib too. The Nation will be saved, but just like the old days NOT ALL . Many didn't get to go into the promise land...a TYPE OF SALVATION.....HEBREWS 3-4.

Who Is A Widow
Of course Trav cherry picks only scriptures pertaining to Israel. But those scriptures are about THE NATION OF ISRAEL. individuals are not a nation. And NATIONS as a group are not saved... As in ETERNAL LIFE. "WHOSOEVER" IS ADDRESSED TO INDIVIDUALS. I wonder why Trav never posts John 3:16? Or is this another cult redefining the word WORLD to mean only them?

Fail To Tell The Truth
David, The man who died next to Jesus ...what exactly did he endure to the end? I believe Matthew is written to those who will be going through the Great Tribulation. And I believe especially Matthew 24-25 is talking about that time..

However you will see no such teaching in Romans 4 or the Gospel of Grace in this Church age. BY GRACE YOU "HAVE BEEN" SAVED THROUGH FAITH...It doesn't say WILL BE, or IF THIS OR IF THAT.

So SAVED there is not necessarily eternal life. Those going through the great tribulation are not saved from the Wrath of God to come. Seeing they have to endure through it. The CHURCH DOES NOT...ROMANS 5:9. The great Trib is THE WRATH OF GOD TO COME. Did you know that? The time of Jacobs trouble.

Fail To Tell The Truth
David, your sweet story of the widow is not the Gospel, it's just a nice story. Also David, I recommend Romans 4 to you. It gives a different account of when Abraham was imputed Righteousness ..... But it is correct AFTER we are saved we still continue to live BY FAITH and will demonstrate works of faith. This is because the just shall live by faith. So our faith is not a one time thing. However our salvation is immediate upon belief, and we are INSTANTLY ADOPTED sons of God and have an inheritance. We don't have to earn one.

Who Is A Widow
God said in Galatians, the promises to Abraham were 430 years before His Covenant with Israel..and was never replaced with the old or the new. Why do you think God is so small He can't fulfill both? My God is bigger than yours, so big Infact, explained to us in Romans 11 AFTER the Covenant to Abraham is until the fulness of the Gentiles come in.....THEN GOD WILL KEEP HIS PROMISES TO THE NATION OF ISRAEL. All in due time Trav, all in Gods timing and in His order of things.

And nothing you say or post can stop it. Not even your bullying. You have never posted any scripture God CANCELLED His covenant with Abraham. I've showed you where He did not. Gal 3:17.

Fail To Tell The Truth
Some believe you can stop following the Holy Spirit. I believe the term is to quench the Holy Spirit within. Now we come to the New Covenant. If God said I will put my spirit within you and CAUSE YOU to walk in my statutes, then who is in power or God? If you say "you" then you go back under the issue with the Old what advantage has the New Covenant? Under the New, scripture teaches it's GOD AT WORK IN YOU, WORKING IN YOU TO WILL AND DO OF HIS GOOD PLEASURE.

But those promises are to those who are saved, not those trying to earn salvation. Romans 8 says we are in the Spirit and not the flesh if we are Christ's. And if you are not in the Spirit you are not Christ's.

Fail To Tell The Truth
Jesus said MY WORDS ARE SPIRIT AND LIFE. David said...YOUR WORD IS A LAMP UNTO MY FEET....Hebrews states..THE WORD OF GOD is living and powerful and stronger than a two edge sword. Yes all the Trinity, Father Son and Holy Spirit are at work in me ALL TOGETHER AND AT THE SAME TIME HAVING THE SAME MIND. When the Holy Spirit brings to mind THE WORD OF GOD, , I OBEY, YIELDING TO GODS WILL and not my own.

If this is what you mean by following the Holy Spirit OK. But I believe it's much more detailed than just saying...follow the Holy Spirit and may mislead others. Satan can imitate the Holy Spirit, so I need THE WHOLE TRINITY, NOT JUST 1/3 at work in and around and through me to stay in the truth.

Fail To Tell The Truth
David, Many people say they are following the Holy Spirit and believe all sorts of off the wall things. When you David believe you have to EARN your salvation, then your take on FOLLOWING the Holy Spirit is different. YIELDING, GIVING WAY TO walking in the Spirit and not the flesh I believe is more appropriate to those saved by GRACE. Seeing you have issues with being SAVED BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH, and faith is not OF WORKS, I don't need any lessions from you on my faith and walk with the Lord. Again, no verse says to follow the Holy Spirit. So stop trying to make up scriptures that don't say that and condemning those who don't redefine the Word of God. The Holy Spirit is ALWAYS WORKING IN AND THROUGH ME. I YIELD TO THE HOLY SPIRIT IN ME.

Fail To Tell The Truth
This is the Truth I follow after: not enough room for the whole chapter....

Romans 8:1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh, but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

Who Is A Widow
That HEATHAN would be saved was also prophesied in the Old testament and was never a secret or hidden. Heathens have been around before Israel was ever formed. Heathens were around before Jacob was ever born. And heathens are still with us today. They have as much opportunity to believe and be saved as anyone else.

Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Fail To Tell The Truth
David, I understand what you are saying. And believe me I don't need your help understanding the Trinity. But you seem to avoid anything concerning Jesus, and THAT was my point. You talk about everything BUT JESUS CHRIST. Jesus said FOLLOW ME. Paul said FOLLOW ME THE WAY I FOLLOW CHRIST. WE ARE TO FOLLOW HIM INTO DEATH AND RESURRECTION LIFE. Your holy spirit doesnt teach or believe this as you avoid Romans 6-8. Also check out Romans 8: 11-13.

I believe you are the one needing HELP UNDERSTANDING. We WALK IN THE SPIRIT David, not behind Him. We are sealed with The Holy Spirit David. When we walk in the Spirit we are yielding to Him.

Salvation In The Church
Trav, Paul tells us what the Mystery , Colossians 1:24-27. No OT prophecy even remotely suggested the RESURRECTED CHRIST IN YOU. How about Romans 6? Where in the OT is there prophecy of being baptized into Jesus death and raised up A NEW CREATURE?

It's been going on right under your nose since the beginning of Pentecost. They preached CHRIST CRUCIFIED AND RISEN,.....and were eye witnesses to His resurrection. Something Israel, Judah, the 10N house for the most part don't believe. However at Jesus 2nd coming....they will look upon Him who they have pierced and MOURN for Him THAT IS OT PROPHECY yet to be fulfilled. Just like Joseph's brothers ,after they realized he was alive...and were ashamed at what they did to him.

Fail To Tell The Truth
What evidence do you have the northern tribes have BECOME another nation, e.g. Saxons? Yes, Israel was scattered among the nations, but they always maintained their identity. ....
---StrongAxe on 5/11/21

Exactly. The Mormons made this mistake suggesting the Native Americans are actually a lost tribe....their own DNA science proved them wrong. They went to South America saying they were a lost tribe..and again their DNA science proved them wrong. Trav fails to understand even during Queen Isabella time, Jews SECRETLY practiced their faith ...and that is what the inquisition was about.

They were scattered among the nations...they didn't become those nations losing their identity.

Fail To Tell The Truth
David, I'm very well aware of the verse and I'm sure so are all the Apostles. Yet not one of them ever said to follow the Holy Spirit. Not even John in John 1,2,and 3.

scripture says .. and Jesus says..." FOLLOW ME. " Ephesians says JESUS is made unto us the wisdom and knowledge of Him. James says if we need wisdom ASK GOD. The Holy Spirit is IN US. SO I would say WE YIELD to the Holy Spirit.

I guess see too much Benny Hinn and those folks in that comment EVERYTHING is about the Holy Spirit with them.

Jesus never even said in that verse that we are to FOLLOW the Holy Spirit. That's something you threw in. David, just stick to scripture , and stop adding your commentary.

Who Is A Widow
Sorry Trav, but THE CHURCH, the one hidden in the OT but now revealed, is made up of both Jew and Greek, Heathan, Barbarians making IN CHRIST ONE NEW MAN, that is neither Jew Gentile Male Female etc, a totally NEW CREATURE. Never spoken of in the OT, is what is God's plan for TODAY, and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Not even the verses you post can stop it. It's happening right under your nose. And once the Church is complete THEN God will turn again to EARTHLY ISRAEL.

Have a blessed day Trav.

How To Love
Trav, I have nothing against the OT prophets, I believe every prophecy. Nowhere have I ever stated otherwise. However THE MYSTERY CHURCH kept secret but now revealed was not prophecied in the OT. Jesus Himself first spoke of this in His prayer in John 17. Do you think Jesus has no right? Matthew 13:35???? In the OT Israel saw the Glory of God, and the Glory of God was manifest to them, but was never IN THEM. The Glory Jesus had before His incarnation was NEVER GIVEN TO ISRAEL, but will be given the Church....the CHURCH that includes EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES IN THIS DISPENSATION. No DNA, geanology test required..ONLY SINNERS SAVED BY GRACE . I know you hate it, but God is still proceeding. Your verses can't stop it.

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