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What Was Paul's Gospel
  
Now if we are rewarded for our acts of righteousness, and one of those rewards is Eternal Life, Pauls doctrine is no different than the one Jesus taught to his disciples. For both taught, We are rewarded for our acts of righteousness. I have my Two witnesses, where are the two witnesses who teach against us??

(Matthew 16:27) For the Son of Man is going to come in his Fathers glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.

Again...
(Romans 2:7) God will repay each person according to what they have done. To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.


What Was Paul's Gospel
  
The key to understanding Faith, We must come to understand the word righteousness. And what is an act of righteousness, an act for which we are rewarded?
(Matthew 6:1)
Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.
(Matthew 5:20)
For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
(James 2:20-21)You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar?


What Was Paul's Gospel
  
Why are the teachings of Paul so confusing?
He teaches, "Not by works but by Grace", in one place, and in another place,(Romans 2:7) To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life....he seemingly teaches that we are saved by works.

What Paul is saying is this...Works under The Law of Moses, is different than Works under the Law of Christ.
In what ways?
If I don't kill you, steal, or lie to you, are these acts of Love?
No!

If you are hungry, and I feed you, or cold and I buy you a coat, are these acts of Love?
Yes!!!

Both are called works, but only one will cause you to grow in the Grace of God, those in (Romans 2:7)


What Was Paul's Gospel
  
The book of Romans is essentially written as a teaching, given through Pauls personal testimony. An experience the disciples did not share. So how could not teach an experience they did not share with us?

This is why you don't see any of the disciples giving their testimonies.


What Was Paul's Gospel
  
You are saying only Paul applied the teachings of Jesus and the other 12 did not?---Samuel

Samuel
Sorry for the confusion brother.
What I am saying, is the Lords disciples were chosen (John 15:16) before the Lords resurrection, and Paul was chosen after the resurrection.

This is why the disciples and Paul appear to be teaching two different gospels. In Pauls epistles, we have a testimony of someone who was saved, in the same manner in which we are being saved.

The Lords disciples were saved, because they remained loyal and followed Jesus Christ. We are saved by following the teachings of Jesus Christ, given to us through Gods Holy Spirit. When we read Paul, we can see if we are following the same path.


What Was Paul's Gospel
  
In conclusion,Paul's gospel is different, because he achieved salvation through the applied teachings of Jesus Christ. Paul's gospel, is the teaching of that experience, an experience different from the one of the Lords disciples.


What Was Paul's Gospel
  
Paul was a highly regarded, educated teacher. Highly regarded like Billy Graham and others are seen today. A teacher is much like a shepherd is to a flock. Where the shepherd leads the sheep will follow.

Paul, due to his past experience as a teacher of the Law of Moses, was a shepherd to his people. So what Jesus did was to take a shepherd of the people, to turn the flock into another direction, a new covenant.

Remember, the majority of Jews rejected Jesus himself as the messiah. They rejected him as their shepherd, so naturally they would reject his disciples too. So in his wisdom, Jesus took Paul, one already seen by the people as a shepherd, and then many of the Jews followed. (Mark 2:21)


What Was Paul's Gospel
  
To answer this question, we must remember Paul was a respected teacher of the old covenant, before he became a follower of Jesus Christ, and a teacher of the New covenant.

The Lords Twelve disciples, did not have these credentials,... this credibility in the eyes of the Jews. Credibility needed, evidenced by all the titles we see in our churches today. The Lord needed this credibility, to be able to get his Jewish followers to accept the Gentiles believers. Notice in Acts, the Gentiles were not accepted by the Jews until Paul took up for them.

And Paul's Gospel, contains something not found anywhere else in the New Testament...his testimony of how he became a Son of God. In Pauls testimony, Jesus provided Footsteps we can follow.


Orthodox Church Priesthood
  
Trav
It's been fun over the years, but Kathrine has ruined CN for me and for many others that you don't see here anymore. So I have decided to walk away from CN due to Kathrines scathing hateful posts.

Hopefully you will be wise and do the same. When you and I are gone, Kathrine and StrongAxe will only have each other. And since they are of one mind, they will have no one to argue with and eventually leave CN Then, in a few months, we can have mature, Bible discussions, using multiple witnesses in the Bible.

See you in a few months, my friend. And be easy on StrongAxe..I still think he's a pretty good guy.


Orthodox Church Priesthood
  
Ahhh...someone who wants to actually wants to have a discussion.

Bill
What Priest was Jesus compared to in Hebrews 7?
It was Melchizedek.
Was the order of Melchizedek a priesthood of many priests?
No, the priesthood was changed, the order of Aaron was a priesthood with many priests, much like the Orthodox and Catholic churches we see today.

And those priests truly were many, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death, but this Man, because He continueth forever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.
(Hebrews 7:23-24)


Explain Acts 2:38
  
Do you have some kind of obsession with Orthodoxy?
---StrongAxe


No....not at all. I mistakenly thought you were Orthodox and thought I would change the subject to give Kathrine a chance to insult you for a while. But you wisely keep your cards close to the vest, so you never need to defend your doctrine.

I now believe, after reviewing old posts, that's because you don't really understand what they are. You only argue against other beliefs, but not for your own. Careful, I believe you're becoming one of Kathrines sycophants.


Orthodox Church Priesthood
  
Strongaxe doesn't make Jesus a liar.---kathr4453

After reflection, you are right. You have explained for us the teachings of Jesus Christ are for the 1000 year reign, and are simply not there for you. And I didn't realize, until now, that you spoke for him too. I had always thought he was Orthodox.

When seen in this context, it's not that you don't believe it, it just that it's written for someone else. My apologies again.


Explain Acts 2:38
  
If you notice it is scripture that infuriates the cult spirits. ---Trav on 9/5/21

Trav
And well documented too!! Just look at the rambling going on in the post I started about the Orthodox church.


Orthodox Church Priesthood
  
However, we seem to agree on important fundamentals.---StrongAxe on 9/7/21

StrongAxe
You do, but without realizing it, you make the teachings of Jesus Christ a complete lie and Jesus...a liar. And for some reason, that doesn't seem to bother either of you.

Kathrine doesn't even acknowledge Jesus Christ as the Author of Salvation. Paul is her Author.


Explain Acts 2:38
  
Kathrine
You see me as a bully and a stalker, because the Holy Spirit has confirmed what I teach as the Truth, and your spirit is troubled. That's why you see me as a stalker and a bully. But it's not my doing, it's God making you question your doctrine.

Notice nobody else calls me a stalker and bully, only you see me in that light.


Explain Acts 2:38
  
Why do you assume I have "many priests"?---StrongAxe

StrongAxe
Over these years I thought I saw where you and Cluny attended the same church. Correct me if I am wrong. I believe he is Eastern Orthodox and they use priests.

Kathrine
If you look carefully at the conversation between us, you will see that you are one who resorts to name calling. And you are one of few bullies here on CN. And the only one I have seen reprimanded for doing so.


Orthodox Church Priesthood
  
StrongAxe
Well then, my apologies sir, if you are telling the truth. Not that I am calling you a liar, but I don't have much faith in the word of those who do not put themselves under the Laws of God.

Funny how all this time I thought you were. But now that I think about it, you and Kathrine do seem to hold each others hands on every topic pertaining to God. Do you follow the Jimmy Swaggart Doctrine too?


Explain Acts 2:38
  

Cult
a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.

StrongAxe
Your doctrine fits the very definition of the word, "Cult". So please, stop using it as a reply, when you don't have anything relevant to add to the conversation.

Kathrine
My church doctrine only has one priest, Jesus Christ, but StrongAxe has many priests. Why don't you start a blog questioning his false doctrine?
Hmmm...??


Explain Acts 2:38
  
I'm just not that into you or your doctrine David.---kathr4453

Translation...She is not into learning what the bible, actually says, she is only into what her teachers have told her what it says.
I can only put the facts in front of her, I can not make her drink. I give her light, and she rewards me with insults.

(Matthew 10:42) And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only, in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.



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