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Is Paul the 13th Apostle
  
Ephesians 2:8-9

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

David, I can testify Kathr4453 has posted this often here and believes it to be true. So to bear false witness against another Christian who has made no such claim as you keep insisting is something I find reprehensible in your dialogue here online.

So what you are saying is Ephesians 2:8-9 and those who believe this are guilty of saving themselves? Would you care to explain? I believe Ephesians 2:8-9. Would you care to take a dig at me? Or are you focused with some obsession on just Kathr4453?



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