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Orthodox Church Priesthood
It's been fun over the years, but Kathrine has ruined CN for me and for many others that you don't see here anymore. So I have decided to walk away from CN due to Kathrines scathing hateful posts.

Hopefully you will be wise and do the same. When you and I are gone, Kathrine and StrongAxe will only have each other. And since they are of one mind, they will have no one to argue with and eventually leave CN Then, in a few months, we can have mature, Bible discussions, using multiple witnesses in the Bible.

See you in a few months, my friend. And be easy on StrongAxe..I still think he's a pretty good guy.

Orthodox Church Priesthood
Ahhh...someone who wants to actually wants to have a discussion.

What Priest was Jesus compared to in Hebrews 7?
It was Melchizedek.
Was the order of Melchizedek a priesthood of many priests?
No, the priesthood was changed, the order of Aaron was a priesthood with many priests, much like the Orthodox and Catholic churches we see today.

And those priests truly were many, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death, but this Man, because He continueth forever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.
(Hebrews 7:23-24)

Explain Acts 2:38
Do you have some kind of obsession with Orthodoxy?

No....not at all. I mistakenly thought you were Orthodox and thought I would change the subject to give Kathrine a chance to insult you for a while. But you wisely keep your cards close to the vest, so you never need to defend your doctrine.

I now believe, after reviewing old posts, that's because you don't really understand what they are. You only argue against other beliefs, but not for your own. Careful, I believe you're becoming one of Kathrines sycophants.

Orthodox Church Priesthood
Strongaxe doesn't make Jesus a liar.---kathr4453

After reflection, you are right. You have explained for us the teachings of Jesus Christ are for the 1000 year reign, and are simply not there for you. And I didn't realize, until now, that you spoke for him too. I had always thought he was Orthodox.

When seen in this context, it's not that you don't believe it, it just that it's written for someone else. My apologies again.

Explain Acts 2:38
If you notice it is scripture that infuriates the cult spirits. ---Trav on 9/5/21

And well documented too!! Just look at the rambling going on in the post I started about the Orthodox church.

Orthodox Church Priesthood
However, we seem to agree on important fundamentals.---StrongAxe on 9/7/21

You do, but without realizing it, you make the teachings of Jesus Christ a complete lie and Jesus...a liar. And for some reason, that doesn't seem to bother either of you.

Kathrine doesn't even acknowledge Jesus Christ as the Author of Salvation. Paul is her Author.

Explain Acts 2:38
You see me as a bully and a stalker, because the Holy Spirit has confirmed what I teach as the Truth, and your spirit is troubled. That's why you see me as a stalker and a bully. But it's not my doing, it's God making you question your doctrine.

Notice nobody else calls me a stalker and bully, only you see me in that light.

Explain Acts 2:38
Why do you assume I have "many priests"?---StrongAxe

Over these years I thought I saw where you and Cluny attended the same church. Correct me if I am wrong. I believe he is Eastern Orthodox and they use priests.

If you look carefully at the conversation between us, you will see that you are one who resorts to name calling. And you are one of few bullies here on CN. And the only one I have seen reprimanded for doing so.

Orthodox Church Priesthood
Well then, my apologies sir, if you are telling the truth. Not that I am calling you a liar, but I don't have much faith in the word of those who do not put themselves under the Laws of God.

Funny how all this time I thought you were. But now that I think about it, you and Kathrine do seem to hold each others hands on every topic pertaining to God. Do you follow the Jimmy Swaggart Doctrine too?

Explain Acts 2:38

a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.

Your doctrine fits the very definition of the word, "Cult". So please, stop using it as a reply, when you don't have anything relevant to add to the conversation.

My church doctrine only has one priest, Jesus Christ, but StrongAxe has many priests. Why don't you start a blog questioning his false doctrine?

Explain Acts 2:38
I'm just not that into you or your doctrine David.---kathr4453

Translation...She is not into learning what the bible, actually says, she is only into what her teachers have told her what it says.
I can only put the facts in front of her, I can not make her drink. I give her light, and she rewards me with insults.

(Matthew 10:42) And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only, in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.

Explain Acts 2:38
(1 Peter 4:18) And, If the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

Of the three individuals above, being someone who sins, are you not the sinner? However...your doctrine has you believing you are someone not mentioned in this passage,....the righteous sinner.

The reason you and many Christians are still sinners, is because your doctrines teach you that the Law as bad. What does Paul say?

(1 Timothy 1:8-9) But we know that the law is good if a man use it lawfully, knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners,.....

Explain Acts 2:38
Just throwing it out there for thought.

You are the one who says Paul teaches a different salvation Gospel to the Gentiles, different from the one Jesus taught. If this is true, do you believe the Lords disciples taught a false doctrine?

Trav believes in the Gospel of Christ, but does not believe it is written to include Gentiles. Trav does not undermine the teachings of Jesus Christ. You do, and for me, that is troubling. That's why I spar with you and StrongAxe and not him.

Explain Acts 2:38
You're overlooking my point.
The Gentiles were being taught Salvation by the Lords disciples, well before Paul started teaching. So if the Gospel meant for the Gentiles, came from Paul, what were the disciples teachings the Gentiles?

Explain Acts 2:38
Place of residence does not give us ethnic origin.---Trav

True, but when someone is called a Samaritan or an Ethiopian, that shows ethnic descendant. For example, if you were of an Irish descendant and born in China, people would call you Irish, not Chinese.

Explain Acts 2:38
Saying Peter filled with the Holy Spirit defy Jesus is rediculous.

You seem to be confused, I was quoting the Bible, AKA, the facts. And the Bible clearly shows Peter was teaching the Gentiles, well before Paul started teaching. And to dispute this fact, you say, Peter defied Jesus by teaching the gentiles, the gospel, that Jesus taught to him? Unbelievable

Explain Acts 2:38
Then Simon answered and said, Pray ye to the Lord for me, that none of these things which ye have spoken come upon me. And they, when they had testified and preached the Word of the Lord, returned to Jerusalem and preached the Gospel in many villages of the Samaritans.
Acts 8:24-25)

The Samaritans were not men of Israel.
So Why did Simon preach the gospel of Christ to Non Jews? Wasn't he aware, the Gospel was meant for Israel?

Why did Simon give the teachings of Christ to the gentiles? Didn't he know Jesus was going to give, a new revised salvation message to Paul, which was to be taught to the Gentiles? And why would he preach salvation to the Ethiopian?

Was Peter wrong...or are all of you?

Is Paul the 13th Apostle
Let me make this simple for everyone's understanding, for I know many of us were raised following a false doctrine and it's difficult to get beyond that.

Works, does not save you.
But through our Good Works, we Grow in the Grace of God. And it is That Grace through which we shall be saved. Grace is the favor of God. This is why Jesus taught (John 14:21) and Paul (Romans 2), especially verse 29!!

God wants you to keep his Law because you love him, and the Law of Christ, because you love your neighbor. When you do what God tells you to do, out of Love...that is what changes the heart.

And folks, when your hearts change, your salvation status will also change.

Is Paul the 13th Apostle
One must remember as they sift through the doctrine of Kathrine, she believes we make the decision to be saved, not God. I know it is God who decides who he will save and why he saves some, but not all, who call him Lord.

And why call ye Me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
(Luke 6:46)
He that hath My commandments and keepeth them, he it is that loveth Me, and he that loveth Me shall be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will manifest Myself to him. (John 14:21)

You are saved when God decides to save you. A sign so you will know you are saved?...(1John 3:9-10). Remember, Jesus is your example of a Son of God, not Kathrine. Jesus wouldn't be allowed to teach in her church.

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