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Explain 2 Chronicles 7:14
  
And an absolutely glaring point Michael _ e has either overlooked or simply doesn't understand. 2 Chronicles 7:14 IS NOT concerning the NEW COVENANT PROMISES of the restoration of Israel. 2 Chronicles 7:14 was promised UNDER THE LAW OF MOSES.

At Pentecost THE NEW COVENANT was instilled, rendering the OLD " If you will, then I will" obsolete ...

You see, the NC Promises concerning the restored nation can be found in Ezekiel 36 where All of it God says I WILL, I WILL I WILL, I WILL. And not one time says IF YOU WILL THEN I WILL.

Proving Acts 2 was not a call to a restored Israel. If it was, under the NC Nothing would have TWARTED Gods plan.


Why Does God Punish Us
  
David no one is leaving this out. Did you actually read and understand the scriptures I posted? If you had, you would see I left nothing out.

You make up scripture never said. Please show scripture that says I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT IN YOU SO THAT YOU WILL GRIEVE WHEN YOU SIN, BECAUSE WITHOUT MY SPIRIT IN YOU ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO GRIEVE FOR YOUR SIN.

It's not there David. You make so many statements that simply are not in scripture and then throw a tantrum when confronted with this extra biblical dogma. Then you cry that your being picked on.

If you make stuff up, YES I WILL PICK IT APART.


Gospel of 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
  
The Gospel restoring the Kingdom to Israel, the last and final dispensation AFTER THE CHURCH IS COMPLETE hasn't started yet. Peter and the Apostles did not preach a restored kingdom to Israel. THERE IS NO OTHER KINGDOM. It didn't start in Acts 1 and abruptly end in Acts 13. That dispensation will be a consecutive 1000 years. And it's according to Gods plan and purpose, not depending on Israel's cooperation. And even THEN , only 1/3 of Israel will enter into that Kingdom reign, AFTER THE GREAT TRIBULATION.

You keep making up an imaginary dispensation not in scripture. Peter preached SALVATION....ACTS 2. Peter never once states THE KINGDOM IS NOW BEING RESTORED TO ISRAEL. GO SAY HI TO KING JESUS. HES SITTING RIGHT OVER THERE.


Church Today In Apostasy
  
David, no one is putting words in your mouth. Maybe it's the way you post. You claimed I said I sin willfully. I called you out on that and THEN YOU SAID, " I know you never said that, but went on to come to your own conclusion based on your faulty understanding of scriptures, that if I don't believe as you do, then actually in your mind I did say that . SO DISHONEST.

SOOOOO You are the one putting words in others mouths others never said. Let's keep the accusations HONEST HERE. To not do so IS SIN. I guess you must have your own list of what is sin and what isn't. But GOD SAID TO BEAR FALSE WITNESS IS A SIN. You need 2-3 witnesses also to make an accusation according to scripture, of which you never have. Another SIN.


Gospels Of Circumcision
  
Is using THE KINGDOM OF GOD more than anyone else a plus here, saying Matthew Mark and Luke using it the most of anyone even Paul means something as well You claim is what????? ANOTHER KINGDOM OF GOD???? So on one hand we are to disregard Jesus and the Apostles Kingdom of God, but not Paul's Kingdom of God? How many Kingdom's of God are there now? One for each Gospel. A kingdom of Jews and another Kingdom of Gentiles???? And are you saying THIS IS THE MYSTERY?

Colossians 1:24-27 tell us exactly what the mystery is,CHRIST IN YOU. MORE THAN THE HOLY SPIRIT IN YOU..... Being conformed to His image. Being made ONE, with God in Christ....being a partakers of HIS DIVINE NATURE. Just as 2nd Peter 1 clearly state.


Gospels Of Circumcision
  
Michael_e, I have shown scripture to back up , but you reject or see it differently.

God showed Peter he was wrong still being under the Law. It's right there. God showed Peter he was no longer under the Law that forbid going into a Gentiles home.

Peter was the first to even use the word GRACE.

You only see what you want to see. And refuse to see what is there that contradicts your beliefs.

Romans 10:4 applied to then as well as TODAY. JESUS IS THE END OF THE LAW TO THOSE WHO BELIEVE. PERIOD. Not Jesus is the end of the Law after Paul came along.


What Is A Seeker Friendly Church
  
Ok Trav, state here clearly for all, your definition of Judah, vs Israel.

Or what do you call the lost tribes? Gentiles?

What do you call those not the lost tribes or Judah?

What is your definition of the circumcision vs the Uncircumcision ?

If you say the Uncircumcision were lost tribes, prove that by scripture please.

Maybe your clarification of these supported by scripture may help us understand your dictionary of words and definitions?


Filled With Holy Spirit
  
Absolutely Josef, the key words here are IN HIM. God sees us IN CHRIST.

I in them and thou in me that we may be one...John 17. Here is how one comes to be IN CHRIST...ROMANS 6-8. No other way. A totally new way, never promised to earthly Israel. This was the Mystery kept secret but now revealed...Colossians 1:24-27. And those today IN CHRIST God no longer sees after the flesh. We are a NEW CREATION IN CHRIST. A HEAVENLY COMPANY...where our citizenship is IN HEAVEN right now as we speak. We are not promised LAND , as Christ alone is our land. And the promises to THE CHURCH are different than the promises to THE EARTHLY NATION OF ISRAEL during the 1000 year reign..the earthly Kingdom...


Filled With Holy Spirit
  
Deut 30 says nothing about God making them righteous because they loved God. Also David how do you explain away this truth.

Romans 10:10 And not only this, but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac,

11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth..... 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

I'm not promoting Calvinism here, but it opposes your teaching.

Do your children or wife have to earn your love? So sad.


Was Eve Called Adam
  
AMEN DAVID. I LOVE THIS VERSE. Also note it has nothing to do with claiming to be a physical descendent of Jacob. Jesus said to unbelieving Israel....Abraham rejoiced to see my day, he saw it and was glad. To Israel He said, if you were Abrahams seed you would KNOW WHO I AM. The Jews kept the law, as Paul who said he was blameless under he Law. So we see Both Jesus and Paul say Abrahams children are those of FAITH. Thank you David for posting that.

Galatians 3:7

7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

I being OF FAITH am a child of Abraham.


Was Eve Called Adam
  
Trav
Interesting...
You believe in obedience to the Gospel of Jesus Christ for salvation, but not in salvation for the Gentile who obeys it. Whereas, Kathrine believes in salvation for the Gentile, but not in obedience to the Gospel of Christ for that salvation. Here is a passage written to both of you.

(2 Thessalonians 1:7,8, & 10)....
---David on 3/20/21


David how dare you slander and then use scripture to threaten me.

I'm sick and tired of you claiming I don't obey the Gospel of Christ. It's YOU David who does not. You don't even believe in the Deity of Christ. I don't think you even KNOW what the GOSPEL IS.....Its in 1 Cor 15:1-4.


Is God In Control
  
David , I also have to add this....if this virus was reversed and overwhelmingly killed white men and woman, and not Blacks and Latinos, we would for sure be seeing a whole different approach to this pandemic. I would stake my life on it.


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
David Paul does not say SIN is destroyed.

Because YOU don't understand what Paul is saying YOU argue against the truth. If you keep saying what Paul never said, building a straw man you can knock down, you've only argued against something never said in the first place.

Everything about our old man is sin, and sin will ALWAYS be in its members, as Paul shows in Romans 7. Paul also said Jesus set us free from the body of this death....

If you simply can't believe what God has said, you have NO FAITH in this area. Not all men have faith. So with that , You're going to have to work out these truths with the Lord. I can only testify to them and point you to them. I can't make you believe and obey them.


Can Anyone Understand Gospel
  
David, I'm asking you to put scripture here stating explicitly that "God saves those He Loves." I can find NO SCRIPTURE supporting your belief here. Please don't nail together scripture that makes it look like it says that. I can also nail together scripture stating anything I want.

BUT FIRST
1) GOD IS NOT A RESPECTOR OF PERSONS. 2) Romans 5 state those who are JUSTIFIED are those where the LOVE OF GOD IS SHED ABROAD IN OUR HEARTS BY THE HOLY SPIRIT.

So now find a verse where God justifies those he loves....AGAIN, it's not there. God JUSTIFIES THE UNGODLY.. Romans 4:5. It doesn't even say God justifies the elect either. The Bible does not support your theory.


Close To End Times
  
One must include verse 21 to matthew5:22 to get its CLEAR meaning. We see below neither Jesus nor Paul have MURDER in their hearts.NOR DO I.

Luke 11:40: "You fools!"

Romans 2:20: "an instructor of the foolish"

1 Corinthians 15:36: "You foolish person!"

2 Corinthians 12:11: "I have been a fool!"

1 Peter 2:15: "put to silence the ignorance of foolish people."

Luke 24:25: "O foolish ones

Romans 1:14: "I am under obligationto the wise and to the foolish"

Galatians 3:1: "O foolish Galatians!..."

Galatians 3:3: "Are you so foolish?..."

Titus 3:3: "For we ourselves were once foolish.


Close To End Times
  
Strongaxe, Certainly we can be angry and sin not....but the sin isn't calling someone a fool or foolish, or their actions foolishness. The Bible is steeped with many verses concerning this. Proverbs 26:4-5 says, ANSWER NOT A FOOL ACCORDING TO HIS FOLLY, ANSWER A FOOL ACCORDING TO HIS FOLLY. So I guess it's ok to recognize a fool, but just don't say the word aloud?? I don't believe this is what Jesus meant.

If you have ANGER in your heart is the core here. Anger that leads to murder....and then call a brother a fool...

But I don't have anger or hate in my heart towards those who falsely accuse me because they can't read and understand my posts . Frustrated yes, hate NO.


Is God In Control
  
Strongaxe, can you believe what came out today...a tape recording of Trump, and how he blatantly lied to the American people about Covid. All on tape...that his faithful followers now have to say that LYING IS NOT A SIN. Talk about trying to normalize blatant sin. And then being attacked by his cult followers the way Scientiology attacks anyone who tries to expose the. Ven's rantings show he is just another hatchet man defending his god. ....THE DEVIL. who is the author of confusion, a murderer from the beginning, and the father of lies.

This makes it EASY to laugh off any comments you make ven. We've got your number.


Close To End Times
  
Jerry, this describes YOU.

Jude 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. 11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. 12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds, trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots, 13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame, wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.


Is God In Control
  
Let's be clear here. If perchance Trump wins, and all you yahoos jump up and down saying YEA, GOD IS IN CONTROL , so Trump must be a good guy, you may want to REREAD your Bibles. There are times God allowed evil kings and rulers in power TO PUNISH folks . When we see the Real Jesus contrasted with the REPUBLICAN Jesus, the real gospel contrasted with the prosperity gospel , or the Gospel of America, ...WE SHOULD GET OUR ( bleep) handed to us. God has been long suffering enough with this false gospel not only here, but our affect around the world bringing it there. Has the fullness of the Gentiles come in....is this time coming to a close? Maybe. and when we see this happening THE TIME OF ANTI-CHRIST is right on its heals. WAKE UP PEOPLE.



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