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What Is The Gospel
Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

David, do you believe this verse is prophecy about Jesus?

Love God And Others
David, why do you continue to take scripture out of context? Have you failed to read what Paul was talking about? This is not a verse you can pluck out and beat someone over the head as if you were Paul. You are not. You were not called to write or interpret scripture. Forcing others to bend to your will is evil. Please continue reading 2 Corinthians 13 to get an understanding.

2 Corinthians 13: 4 For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you.

5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith, prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

Why Does God Punish Us

Proverbs 29:23
A man's pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.

Why Does God Punish Us
David, if you are not going to be an example of doing what the Lord commands us to do, then please sit down and be quiet.

You have continually slandered others here without proof of your accusations. I don't see The Lord Jesus giving you permission to stone anyone here.

Where does the Lord Jesus Christ say" and those who have attained sinlessness will I authorize to be your judge, jury and executioner?

Your gospel is not my gospel David. Yours is made up, a sort of collage of scripture without a foundation. The foundation is Jesus death and resurrection you leave out.

We are not saved by our conscience. We are saved by Grace through faith. And God has given every man a measure of faith.

What Was Paul's Gospel
I have to jump in here too.
1 Peter 1:2
elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in sanctification of the Spirit for obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace to you and peace be multiplied.

2 Thessalonians 2:13
Stand Fast
But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth,

Same Gospel message.

Why should Peter preach sanctification in Acts 2 when Paul never preached it right out of the gate everywhere he went. That is for those who are already saved who already understand justification first.

Is Paul the 13th Apostle
Ephesians 2:8-9

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

David, I can testify Kathr4453 has posted this often here and believes it to be true. So to bear false witness against another Christian who has made no such claim as you keep insisting is something I find reprehensible in your dialogue here online.

So what you are saying is Ephesians 2:8-9 and those who believe this are guilty of saving themselves? Would you care to explain? I believe Ephesians 2:8-9. Would you care to take a dig at me? Or are you focused with some obsession on just Kathr4453?

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