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What Is The Gospel
David, you've had plenty of opportunity to say you believe Roman's 6-8, but have instead posted many comments denouncing over the past 2 years just as you have skirted around the DEITY OF CHRIST. He's not a deity.

All one has to do is go back and read your comments to know who the liar is David.

So prove yourself and tell us when YOU OBEYED Roman's 6-8 and what that was like.

Why have you always argued against Roman's 6-8?

What Is The Gospel
The early church did not teach "let your conscience be your guide".

To be taught of the Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit pointing to Jesus Christ. John 15.

Man was given a conscience when created. So man knows right from wrong. However we (those now saved) we see in Hebrews says our old conscience has been purged from dead works by the blood of Jesus Christ to Serve the living God. We are given THE MIND OF CHRIST...

So for one to be lead by the Spirit they first need to be saved and risen with Christ just as Roman's 6-8 teach us.

David doesn't believe Roman's 6-8, always arguing against and seems to say he has found another way around the CROSS.

Beware of false teachers.

What Is The Gospel
The foundation is Christ. Now Paul tells us we build upon that foundation either wood hay and stubble or Gold , silver and precious stone. So I believe correct doctrine is what we are building here. We're not saved by this Doctrine, but by faith in Jesus Christ, but if man-made traditions and man-made etc is built upon it will burn up. But the person is still saved. Others who have built correctly will be rewarded.

Want More From God
There are different judgements, and one is the Judgment of Nations as well. So yes there are different judgements. Those allowed to enter into the 1000 year reign will still be earthly and this is 1000 years before the Great White Throne Judgment. In Matthew 24-25 you will not see the Lambs Book of Life mentioned. Why, because this is not the final Judgements. This Judgements is immediately at Jesus 2nd coming to earth.

This also is not the Judgement Seat of Christ the BOC will by judged at.

What Is The Gospel
We're exercised to know both good and evil. God will put you through a battery of tests so you'll learn the difference between the leading of the Holy Spirit and, Satan who loves more than anything to confuse you or tempt you etc. Jesus was tested 40 days was also for our example of OVERCOMING THE EVIL ONE.

David had never testified to this and because his faith has never been tried and tested may not know he has been led by a counterfeit spirit.

James 1 testifies to this testing and it's results. We don't overcome SIN, we OVERCOME the evil 1St John show is part of our growth and maturity. The TESTING OF YOUR FAITH is something every born again Christian goes through. If you haven't, check to see you are IN THE FAITH.

Can You Love God
In THE OT THE Holy Spirit actually REVEALED TRUTH to the Prophets etc. But the difference is the Holy Spirit was UPON Prophets , Priests and Kings on the OT, but not IN THEM the way the Holy Spirit is IN the believer today. The Holy Spirit TODAY has joined us together WITH CHRIST,that only happened AFTER Jesus rose from the dead.

Want More From God
Hebrews 7:25. Is another way of saying " no one can come to the Father except THROUGH His Son.

Strongaxe, I believe the verses in Matthew you always refer to is addressed to those who make it through the Great Tribulation after we see all that will come to pass in Matthew 24-25. You see Jesus as KING here on earth at that time.. Seeing the Great Tribulation is also know as the time of Jacob's Trouble, and anti_ Semitic will be at its height, the MY BRETHREN here are Jews Jesus is referring to. How the Jews are treated at that time, also is stated in Zachariah 12-14.

This judgement is not those saved by grace through faith today.

What Is The Gospel
David I'm still waiting for answers to my questions concerning the Deity of Christ you have skirted around. I still want an answer.

Want More From God
God saves those who's faith is in His Son . No scripture says you must first be madly in love with Jesus before God will save you.

Those "many people" are not saved in the first place do they are getting nothing from God. They may be getting it from Satan pretending to be God, but not God.

And as long as Satan is feeding their greed, there is nothing you can say or do that will change their thinking. I don't think we need to worry about the MANY PEOPLE in that category. Let's focus on many people who need The Lord, not money.

What Is The Gospel
David, the Holy Scriptures have been around for thousands of years. You confuse that with the NT. The Bereans searched the scriptures daily to see if what Paul was saying was true. What they were searching was the OT Scriptures.

No scripture says to accept the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is given to those who believe JESUS IS THE CHRIST , GOD IN THE FLESH who died for our sin and have repented. Acts 2:38-40.

I've received ALL of Jesus, as CHRIST IN ME consists of the RISEN CHRIST AND SPIRIT OF CHRIST IN ME, changing me from Glory to Glory. Cojlossians 1:24-27, 2 Corinthians 3... THE WHOLE CHAPTER, Romans 6-8. Is how Christ is in you AND how the Holy Spirit is in you. Actually Colossians 3:1-4 consists of the WHOLE TRINITY.

What Is The Gospel
Wouldn't Jesus be illegitimate if God divorced Israel. Israel is the wife of God. Aka THE WOMAN seen in Revelation 12. And the Woman and child in Rev 12, the child is Christ. I think we can all agree here. So if God divorced Israel, Jesus would be an illegitimate child wouldn't He? Unless men think they still can have their way with a wife they divorced.

So IN CHRIST a BETTER COVENANT WAS MADE. God didn't take an illegitimate Son to make a better Covenant with Israel.

Trav has no idea what he is posting here. He thinks he does, and that's sad.

The promise of the Messiah began in Genesis 3:15. And Genesis 3:15 is also continued into Rev 12, and Rev 22:16

What Is The Gospel
Trav, you need to post those scriptures in order. Jer 3:14 comes AFTER Jer3:1-4, proving God did not divorce Israel.

Plus divorce is not a death as David showed in Romans 7.

In Jeremiah 3 we see after God states vs 1-8He still refers to Israel as those He is married to.

Romans 7 is concerning the LAW. THEY HAD TO DIE TO THE Law to he married to another, which is Christ. Rom 7:4

Now we all know you will answer back in sarcastic vile verbage hissing like a snake at women who correct you, but that's OK. As long as OTHERS see your false teaching is all that matters

What Is The Gospel
I didn't ask you if Jesus was THE FATHER. I've always found that if someone answered that way they were deflecting.



One God David. not "a" deity .

So please answer again. Do you believe Before Jesus was made FLESH,He was/is THE WORD WHO WAS/IS GOD?

If you don't David, no matter how you try to deflect your answer, you do not believe Jesus is LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, and since you don't, have not made Jesus Lord. Only by the Holy Spirit can you say Jesus IS LORD. LORD MEANING GOD. ....NOT LORD MEANING THE FATHER.

What Is The Gospel
To Accept Jesus Christ is again MAINSTREAM Christianity jargon.

David although you insist you do not like or believe in mainstream Christianity you keep using their jargon.

Also please give explicit detail on what exactly ACCEPTING CHRIST entails. What does one have to do to ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST?

What Is The Gospel
So another thought here....To make Jesus Lord is to first acknowledge Jesus is GOD. He IS The Lord God Almighty. But I don't hear anyone say we must make GOD GOD . Because GOD IS GOD, AND another word for GOD is LORD.

Now interestingly I have pressed David for a couple years here concerning his belief in the DEITY OF CHRIST. And he has refused to do so, siding with the JW's and MORMONS that Jesus is not GOD, but a god or Michael the Arc-Angel.

So, again David, if you have made Jesus LORD, declare here JESUS IS GOD IN THE FLESH. If you can't....then YOU have not made Jesus LORD, as scripture defines LORD AKA LORD GOD ALMIGHTY .

Believe In The Gospel
Abraham was imputed righteousness when he believed God. Now the JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH, " just " meaning the justified, and LIVE BY, is a daily walk of obedience. When Abraham offered Isaac, that was not Abrahams initial salvation, but evidence OF his salvation by a continued obedience to the Lord, just as Paul testifies concerning his own salvation in Philippians 3..I PRESS ON....

The Lord wants us to GROW UP INTO THE FULLNESS and Stature of Christ, and that happens by our obedience of walking in those WORKS GOD HAS BEFORE ORDAINED WE ARE TO WALK IN. These are works OF Faith.

Those TRULY SAVED BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH can testify to these facts by their own testimony. 2 Corinthians 13:5 Ephesians 4:13, 1 Thess 1:3

What Is The Gospel
I don't believe we MAKE JESUS LORD, is in scripture either. Jesus IS LORD.

But I believe the correct thought should be that we surrender our lives to His Lordship. But again, that comes after we are risen together with Him, and is stated in Romans 6. It's just another word for YIELD YOUR MEMBERS TO GOD ALIVE FROM THE DEAD.

But I find it interesting David rejects Romans 6. Does David think his teaching is superior to Paul? RED FLAG FOLKS.

All these catch PHRAISES David says here , he didn't first think up on his own. He's just repeating SOME MAINSTREAM CHRISTIANITY TEACHINGS that he also rejects at the same time.

Believe In The Gospel
I believe Paul gave us a perfect example of his own obedience of faith and clearly defines it in Philippians 3. Doesn't sound like Paul is just leaning back doing nothing.

Salvation is just the beginning of our salvation. God has a PURPOSE in our salvation. It's not just sitting around regurgitating headknowledge and regurgitation of false teachers. If that's all someone has to testify to.... RED FLAG.

Believe In The Gospel
According to michael_e , Jews are saved "BY FAITH" AND "THROUGH FAITH" ....and are given a double portion of FAITH. YEA!

Acts 26:18
To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

Romans 1:17
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Romans 3:22
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Believe In The Gospel
Faith is given to all men but not all men exercise that faith. Faith also is an attitude not a power. It says, I BELIEVE THAT.

When you sit in a chair you are exercising faith in that chair that it will hold you up. You believe the manufacturer that the design is to allow you and your weight to sit and the chair and not break. Your actions of actually doing it is faith. Called faith supported by works. The works is you actually sitting in the chair. Just saying ..oh yeah, it will hold me, but not taking action is called faith without works.

Abraham demonstrated his faith by OBEYING GODS VOICE and doing what God asked. Those who claim to have faith but have never exercised obedience of faith have only head knowledge.

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